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Old 08-18-2004, 05:42 AM   #11
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I'm catholic technically, but I have beliefs that are personal to me, and I don't like the concept of sin. I believe more in what people feel. If you feel like you've done something wrong, whether it's a sin or not is unimportant, you know? Just do what feels right and then you'll be okay with yourself.

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Old 08-18-2004, 08:55 AM   #12
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Um...my head hurts?
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Old 08-18-2004, 11:57 AM   #13
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Old 08-18-2004, 01:36 PM   #14
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Well, you still sin. You just might not be aware of it is all.

Besides, if you've ever done anything that you know is bad, that's a given that that's a sin right there.
If someone has no religion, then what are considered "sins" by religions don't apply to them. They might be sining in YOUR eyes, but to them they have done nothing wrong. This is where everything you just said sort of falls apart. I don't think there are any questions as to what is considered a sin by the Christian religion. The problem is when certian people of the faith take it upon themsevles to look down on those who aren't of the faith and call them wrong and insist that they are wrong. By YOUR standards they might be, but if they don't believe in the same thing you do, then it doesn't apply to them.
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Old 08-18-2004, 02:06 PM   #15
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And everytime I try to fly I fall, in religious threads, I feel so small.
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Old 08-18-2004, 02:07 PM   #16
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but if they don't believe in the same thing you do, then it doesn't apply to them.
that's like saying if someone doesn't believe murder is wrong, then that doesn't apply to them
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Old 08-18-2004, 02:16 PM   #17
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that's like saying if someone doesn't believe murder is wrong, then that doesn't apply to them
Okay, but who really believes that murder is not wrong? Really, people who don't see the wrong in that are those who have psychological disorders and, IMO, they shouldn't have the same standards and rules held up to them as we would hold up to normal, everyday, peson who can think logically and morally on issues.
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Okay, but who really believes that murder is not wrong? Really, people who don't see the wrong in that are those who have psychological disorders and, IMO, they shouldn't have the same standards and rules held up to them as we would hold up to normal, everyday, peson who can think logically and morally on issues.
Your problem is that you are defining sin as a relative when sin is an absolute. That being said, EVERYBODY SINS! Trying to define sin away so that, whichever things you do which are considered sins aren't, so that, therefore, you can define yourself away as sinless is quite meaningless and futile.

That's like saying you are perfect! In fact, that is EXACTLY what it would be saying!

Simply put, sin is variance from perfection. No one is perfect, and so everybody sins. However, sin is also role-based, as mentioned above.

Why not simply admit that you do sin and just live with that? That would make you.....human
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Old 08-19-2004, 02:29 AM   #19
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Okay, but who really believes that murder is not wrong? Really, people who don't see the wrong in that are those who have psychological disorders and, IMO, they shouldn't have the same standards and rules held up to them as we would hold up to normal, everyday, peson who can think logically and morally on issues.
what about the mafia and gangs. they see someone is in their way so they knock them off. someone stole from them, so they kill them. no psychological disorders, just as many would call "bad" people. they don't see killing someone who stole from them or stand in their way as wrong. so it's not a sin or bad to them?
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