What is the final age you should have a baby at? - Page 2 - Eternal Allegiance

ForeverInLoveWithJus · 01-16-2005, 12:43 PM

Yeah, its risky and then it gets in to the situation where I saw a lot of those pregnant mothers who are pregnant with downs babies end up having abortions as they are not "normal" and that is dreadful.

ElectronicWorm · 01-16-2005, 12:51 PM

Indeed. People just 'take' babies instead of 'having' them without realising the age of the parents can have a big influence on the baby. Again, I think its selfish if you only think about when its best for you and your carreer. If you wanna have kids and a carreer, you have to make choices.

The 67 year old woman is imo really selfish. 1. There i such a high risk the baby isnt healthy and 2. Even is the kid is healthy, it will have to deal with the dead of both mom and dad on an early age.

FantaOrSprite · 01-16-2005, 01:09 PM

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Originally posted by ForeverInLoveWithJus
In the Charlotte case, yeah I know what you mean but I mean that woman is nearly 70. How can that be right? She should be a grandmother not a mother.

Yeah, thats what I think too.

But I don't think I should have the right to tell anyone when they can/cannot have children. I mean , yeah theres a chance that a child could be born with Down's ...but hell, theres ALWAYS a chance that your child will be born with something! If you look at the probablity of things going wrong then noone would have children.

I had a child young, I was 20 when I gave birth. There is a risk of complications when the mother is too young also....so should someone tell me that I don't have the right to have MY child because I'm "too young" or not able to provide it with a 300,000 house, and private schools and a pony? You get into a tricky area when you start to try to tell people what they can and cannot do.

And if you want to do that, maybe we should make men over a certain age get vasectomies also. Because its kind of sexist that men can pretty much father until they die.

PapRoach123 · 01-16-2005, 01:12 PM

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Originally posted by Poison Paradise
Indeed. People just 'take' babies instead of 'having' them without realising the age of the parents can have a big influence on the baby. Again, I think its selfish if you only think about when its best for you and your carreer. If you wanna have kids and a carreer, you have to make choices.

The 67 year old woman is imo really selfish. 1. There i such a high risk the baby isnt healthy and 2. Even is the kid is healthy, it will have to deal with the dead of both mom and dad on an early age.

I agree with this. Having a baby equals having a day job. First it's already difficult for people to acknowledge that they shouldn't have two day jobs at the same time, where baby spends more time with grandma and granddad, then baby does with own parents.

Then people choose to do one first, and then the other. While in most healthy families, dad makes all the money, and mom devotes her full attention to the baby during day time.

Problem is though that divorce rate is increasing every year, people don't stick with what they have anymore cause they come to believe that they can have better. Especially in their younger years people are less and less ready to settle down, which gives them more incentive to concentrate on their careers, which is a one man's job. And then I'm not even speaking of the attractiveness of pursuing a career for both genders.

Bottom line, many circumstances in this time and age make a tolerable living as we envision it much harder to achieve.

ElectronicWorm · 01-16-2005, 01:12 PM

You should make the right decision for yourself... Im making mine

IamA-BFG · 01-16-2005, 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by RaInBoW_bRiTe
...And if you want to do that, maybe we should make men over a certain age get vasectomies also. Because its kind of sexist that men can pretty much father until they die.

How about "NO"!? The only sexist statement here is that one you made just there. As far as I can see, all of the other statements just said that people should not have children after a certain age, which includes the fathers too. I never saw anything specifically saying it only applied to women. Also, how is that being fair?

To be "fair", if you were going to enact that rule, you would have to enact a rule that after a certain age, the women needed their tubes tied also, which I also disagree with.

These forms of social control infringe on the human rights of the older people.

FantaOrSprite · 01-16-2005, 01:17 PM

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Originally posted by FormerlyLBFG
How about "NO"!? The only sexist statement here is that one you made just there. As far as I can see, all of the other statements just said that people should not have children after a certain age, which includes the fathers too. I never saw anything specifically saying it only applied to women. Also, how is that being fair?

To be "fair", if you were going to enact that rule, you would have to enact a rule that after a certain age, the women needed their tubes tied also, which I also disagree with.

These forms of social control infringe on the human rights of the older people.

I was being SARCASTIC

PapRoach123 · 01-16-2005, 01:21 PM

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Originally posted by RaInBoW_bRiTe
I was being SARCASTIC

Sarcasm tags!

<sarc> </sarc>

FantaOrSprite · 01-16-2005, 01:23 PM

lmao. I must implement those Stinger so there will be no mass confusion.

IamA-BFG · 01-16-2005, 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by RaInBoW_bRiTe
I was being SARCASTIC

okay then

I just didn't want to see this turn into a thread with accusations of each side being sexist and blah blah, when it wasn't the case.

I mean, biologically, most men can have children for a longer period of time than women can. Oh well. It isn't being sexist, it is just stating facts. Also, the fertility rates of males have been declining with each new generation due to pollutants and whatnot, whereas the fertility rates of females have not been affected much, if at all, by this. Also, not sexist, just fact. The first seems negative to females, the second to males. You can't argue with biology and win.

Really though, I don't think it's right to tell ANY old people they cannot have children and it is especially not right to enforce that on them.