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03-24-2006, 06:55 PM
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#11 | | Somebodys Watching...
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| I believe in God, I just don't think humans have the intelligence to understand Gods existence and how he came about. As humans, we're so limited and questions like those are things our human minds can't comprehend. That's my standpoint atleast. |
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03-25-2006, 06:10 AM
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#12 | | World Champion
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| I actually think we can. There's a lot more to the human mind than most of us really know of, much less understand. Most people live their lives on a superficial basis, never really knowing what they were truly capable of, other than trying to fit into standard society with all the basic stuff such as job/money, house, tree, pet, procreation, etc. However, there is so much more to life than just that. I love to explore my mind, train it and mold it. Take on challenges and win ability.
If you know how to open the doors to your mind, you can accomplish so much, it can't even be described with words. To most people however -- since they love to think up standpoints, form solid opinions and make judgement calls -- those doors stay closed. |
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03-25-2006, 07:36 AM
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#13 | | Somebodys Watching...
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| How are we going to know how God came about? We're not. I don't think the question of where God came about is the true question we should all be asking ourselves. I believe we should ask the questions of our purpose and be thankful for our existence. From a Muslim standpoint, it's because of God that blood flows through our veins every second, it's because of God that our heart is beating every beat it does. We owe so much to God, we should be focusing on other things rather than how God came about. I think there is a bigger picture than that because in truth, we'll never know how God came about, and from an Islamic position, there's much more to focus on than that. |
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03-26-2006, 02:35 AM
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#14 | | .♥.GREG_SANDERS.♥.
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Originally Posted by Britneyslave How are we going to know how God came about? We're not. I don't think the question of where God came about is the true question we should all be asking ourselves. I believe we should ask the questions of our purpose and be thankful for our existence. From a Muslim standpoint, it's because of God that blood flows through our veins every second, it's because of God that our heart is beating every beat it does. We owe so much to God, we should be focusing on other things rather than how God came about. I think there is a bigger picture than that because in truth, we'll never know how God came about, and from an Islamic position, there's much more to focus on than that. | I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID ADEEL !
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03-26-2006, 06:44 AM
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#15 | | World Champion
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Originally Posted by Britneyslave How are we going to know how God came about? We're not. I don't think the question of where God came about is the true question we should all be asking ourselves. I believe we should ask the questions of our purpose and be thankful for our existence. From a Muslim standpoint, it's because of God that blood flows through our veins every second, it's because of God that our heart is beating every beat it does. We owe so much to God, we should be focusing on other things rather than how God came about. I think there is a bigger picture than that because in truth, we'll never know how God came about, and from an Islamic position, there's much more to focus on than that. | Agreed with that standpoint entirely, however I won't say we'll never find out how God came about (assuming there is one -- for those picky enough to mention such is bull), because you'll never know what you'll find on the other side. But in case we do find out, I'm also sure it'll only be a side issue to a much bigger picture.
From my standpoint, we're here to allow our souls to grow by collecting life experience. And what we're supposed to do with that will be revealed in the afterlife (yes, yes -- if such exists you picky bastards  ) |
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03-26-2006, 08:40 AM
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#16 | | Somebodys Watching...
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Originally Posted by Stinger Agreed with that standpoint entirely, however I won't say we'll never find out how God came about (assuming there is one -- for those picky enough to mention such is bull), because you'll never know what you'll find on the other side. But in case we do find out, I'm also sure it'll only be a side issue to a much bigger picture.
From my standpoint, we're here to allow our souls to grow by collecting life experience. And what we're supposed to do with that will be revealed in the afterlife (yes, yes -- if such exists you picky bastards  ) | That's an interesting standpoint. I would say though that I think the revealations of what we're supposed to do with our actions are given in The Qur'an, The Bible and The Torah (when the books are presented in their original form. The Qur'an is the only Holy book in the world that exists in it's original form). The purpose of life from an Islamic standpoint is given from the Qur'anic quote I put in my signature. I believe this life is a test and we will be judged based on our intentions in the afterlife. That is also why I believe Allah gave us the Qur'an, The Bible and the Torah. These books, when they were revealed, are the answers to everything we need to know.
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03-26-2006, 01:46 PM
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#17 | | World Champion
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Originally Posted by Britneyslave That's an interesting standpoint. I would say though that I think the revealations of what we're supposed to do with our actions are given in The Qur'an, The Bible and The Torah (when the books are presented in their original form. The Qur'an is the only Holy book in the world that exists in it's original form). The purpose of life from an Islamic standpoint is given from the Qur'anic quote I put in my signature. I believe this life is a test and we will be judged based on our intentions in the afterlife. That is also why I believe Allah gave us the Qur'an, The Bible and the Torah. These books, when they were revealed, are the answers to everything we need to know. | That seems very plausible to me. It certainly makes life a lot more interesting when you live it that way.
The way I live my life is similar to it, only not as detailed. I aim to be happy, and if needed I help other people be happy. I attempt to improve myself in everything that I do, and I make sure to bring out the best in me in any sort of situation as much as I can. Doing so puts me in a happy mood pretty much every day.  |
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03-26-2006, 06:30 PM
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#18 | | Somebodys Watching...
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Originally Posted by Stinger That seems very plausible to me. It certainly makes life a lot more interesting when you live it that way.
The way I live my life is similar to it, only not as detailed. I aim to be happy, and if needed I help other people be happy. I attempt to improve myself in everything that I do, and I make sure to bring out the best in me in any sort of situation as much as I can. Doing so puts me in a happy mood pretty much every day.  | That's really good and I admire that alot. But, I just have one question. Do you think the answer to this life will be presented when we die or do you believe God already gave us the answers and that's what you're trying to figure out? |
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03-27-2006, 08:30 AM
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#19 | | John 6:44-47 (NIV)
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Originally Posted by Harbinger Raelism is a cult. | Such is why the guy only joined to tell us about it. Not to intermingle with us. But just to tell us this crap that is supposedly real, but it's the fake real, being rael.
Don't get de-raeled. So many jokes. |
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03-27-2006, 11:56 AM
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#20 | | Mraz-a-licious
Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Iowa City @ U of I
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| Actually, you could consider most religions a cult....
1.
1. A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.
2. The followers of such a religion or sect.
2. A system or community of religious worship and ritual.
3. The formal means of expressing religious reverence; religious ceremony and ritual.
4. A usually nonscientific method or regimen claimed by its originator to have exclusive or exceptional power in curing a particular disease.
5.
1. Obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a person, principle, or thing.
2. The object of such devotion.
6. An exclusive group of persons sharing an esoteric, usually artistic or intellectual interest.
it's funny that when someone comes out preaching something like this, everyone is so quick to jump on them and say "hahaha, you're wrong!!" but then get upset when the same thing is done to whatever they chose to believe in. I'm not saying I agree with what this person posted, but it's just the prinicpal of the thing. |
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