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Old 03-14-2004, 06:33 AM   #71
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Errick, first of all you're commiting a sin right now. You are passing judgement on people. And you sin also, so does that mean GOD doesn't look at you? Thats the whole reason Jesus dies was for our sins.
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Old 03-14-2004, 03:29 PM   #72
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first of all you're commiting a sin right now. You are passing judgement on people.
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Old 03-14-2004, 09:48 PM   #73
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I think I'll skip Mel Gibson can go to hell with that movie. It really doesn't interest me, probably because I'm not christian, but however, I heard a little about it and it doesn't sound that great. They try to make jewish people look bad or something, so yeah, I am not going to support that and waste my money on it. Next.
I disagree. Mel did not try to make Jewish people look bad. Everything featured in the movie actually happened (with the exception of maybe the parts of the movie with the Mary/jesus flashbacks) So how are they trying to make them look bad over something that actually happened??

Its in the Bible anyways, and its no secret that Jews are God's "chosen people", according to the Bible. The reason only Jews crucified him, is because Jesus happened to be in a Jewish country, where most of the population were Jews.

I quess the Bible is anti-Jews also, since they say in there that Jews crucified him.
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Old 03-14-2004, 10:03 PM   #74
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i watched 10 minutes and thought it was so boring i turned it off but im gonna watch it soon when i've slept more than 5 hours, maybe i'll have a little more patience
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Old 03-15-2004, 03:38 AM   #75
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I think this movie is too gory for me to watch.
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Old 03-15-2004, 04:53 AM   #76
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I don't like how this is all sold... Like profiting from the story of Christ... Whatever you want to call it.

(Unless all the profits are used to spread the word of God. Then i'm fine with it)

But that's just my opinion.
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Old 03-15-2004, 04:58 AM   #77
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I can see where you are coming from, I dont really like the idea either.
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Old 03-15-2004, 12:25 PM   #78
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OK, so i was too curious and i downloaded the movie and watched it yesterday. Overall, it was a good movie and i will probably end up getting it on DVD. Some parts i thought were a little too long for my taste. The saddest part of the movie was during the cruxifiction scene when the murderer asks Jesus to remember him. I didn't cry though and i wasn't expecting there to be some funny parts in the movie as well. I don't see how anyone could call it Anti-Semitic. Yes, the Jewish ppl looked bad, but the Romans didn't look so hot either (ok well Ponitus Pilate did lol). Still, it is history and yes bad Jewish people did and do exist. I don't know how that is controversial. There was a lot of gore and i thought the cruxifiction was the most cringeworthy scene. The only other movie that made me cringe like that was Reservoir Dogs (the ear scene) lol. Really though, worse than the gore were the sound effects that went with it. The sound was really worse than the actual blood. Some of the parts of the movie had me scratching my head because i didn't remember reading about them in the Bible. I didn't realize Mel used some artistic license until i went online looking for an explanation. Here is a site with an explanation of the scenes that aren't in the Bible. All in all, it didn't change my life ,but it was probably the best Jesus flick i have seen so far.

As for the mass merchandising, i think that is wrong. I mean is this really necessary? I understand if the movie proceeds went to the people that made the movie and i don't have a problem with that. Gibson is talking about possibly making more Bible movies since this one was so successful. What i have a problem with is the tie-ins and other crass commercialism that have nothing to do with the movie. It didn't say anything on the site about donating to charity. But then again i guess, Mel decided not to because he didn't want to create another controversy.
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I disagree. Mel did not try to make Jewish people look bad. Everything featured in the movie actually happened (with the exception of maybe the parts of the movie with the Mary/jesus flashbacks) So how are they trying to make them look bad over something that actually happened??

Its in the Bible anyways, and its no secret that Jews are God's "chosen people", according to the Bible. The reason only Jews crucified him, is because Jesus happened to be in a Jewish country, where most of the population were Jews.

I quess the Bible is anti-Jews also, since they say in there that Jews crucified him.
I don't know. All in all, the movie sounds anti semitic to me (plus releasing it now) and the fact that Mel Gibson got that role doesn't really make me like him. I never actually liked him nor hated him... I'll just use Michael's quote because that's what I think as well...

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Errick, first of all you're commiting a sin right now. You are passing judgement on people. And you sin also, so does that mean GOD doesn't look at you? Thats the whole reason Jesus dies was for our sins.
Such is the reason why I repent every night. I know I'm not perfect and never will be, because all fall short of the glory of GOD (it says so in the Bible). I never said I was perfect nor that I was any closer to God than others, but I know what is right and what is wrong. And Adeel's religion is not of Jesus Christ, therefore it is wrong. I respect the fact that he has faith in God, but God is not Allah.

I know I sin. I ask God to forgive me, though. Others don't. The people who are lost (otherwise meaning, not saved by Jesus' life and blood) need to hear this. I won't say it in a perfect way because I am not God, but I think the Lord is really telling me to witness to you all on this message board.

Take me for once seriously, this is something I am passionate about and I am not a sucker but I believe in the spirit of God and His almighty and undying, unfailing, unresting love for us all. If we come into contact with God then we might see a little bit about how He is, if we are to be so lucky. I pray that you all find God, through Jesus Christ, because if you have found Him through any other outlet, it is not God and you are being led by something that is not Godly, but of the devil.

Keep in mind, I am only trying to share the happiness that God has brought to my life with you. It may not seem so appealing because I am being stern, otherwise you all won't take me to be telling the truth. In spirit and in truth, I trust God with my life that is why I have given it up to Him. If He wants to speak through me, who am I to not let Him? It's not like your eyes will ever see Him except in Heaven, if you even make it that close. Heaven and Hell are divided for a reason. God made people so He wouldn't be lonely. Thank God that we are able to know Him personally, and not just talk to Him like He's a brick wall. He is REAL - I know this because as much as I do have a clue about Him, there is still so much more to know making this relationship an ongoing one full of tests, in the way I gain my wisdom. I know I can never get bored. The only thing I get bored with is the people that divide themselves apart from God's love through denominations (Methodist, Baptist, Catholic, Lutheran).

I attend a non-denominational Christian church. It is the one place that I would love to spend all of my time. I know God is there whenever I'm there, and that He's been there and that I'll feel His embrace while I am there. Look in your community for a non-denominational church and you will see what you are missing out on. They do use instruments. They do have commune worship. The worship is my favorite part, singing love songs to God, and feeling His love all around me just leaves me speechless. I want that always, when I am without it, I feel so dry. I get tired and weak and miss the spiritual relief He gives me.

My actions are based on what I think is morally right and what God would approve of. I try my best. Again, I am not perfect but I LOVE GOD and I LOVE JESUS so there's a start. I'll never know Him fully and that is the wonder that He brings to my mind. I'm just proud I found Him so early, because I'd be gone and down a lonely path if I didn't. I'd be so depressed and miserable. He makes me happy, He gives me that. Just by having faith and spending time with Him through prayer and worship, and reading His Word - I know He is watching over me and smiling. I don't do it every day like I desire to, but I don't have the energy nor the strength to. I pray that I will one day. In Jesus' precious name, Amen.

Thank you for reading. If you feel like you want to know God a bit more personally. And can accept that what I said before is not perfect nor is this, but is a callout to all those who want to know God and haven't been able to nor knew how to, just PM or email me about it. I'll be kind, after all you know me to be that way. I'm not a mean-hearted person. I just like to lay my grounds before they're pulled from under me.

Much love to all the people in this thread.
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