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03-22-2003, 01:07 AM
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#31 | | Not for sale!
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 8,539
| Quote: Originally posted by Loc How can u hack? just wondering | Do anything making you fall under the definiton below... Quote:
hacker
hacker /n./ [originally, someone who makes furniture with an axe]
1. A person who enjoys exploring the details of programmable systems and how to stretch their capabilities, as opposed to most users, who prefer to learn only the minimum necessary. [ ... ] 6. An expert or enthusiast of any kind. One might be an astronomy hacker, for example. 7. One who enjoys the intellectual challenge of creatively overcoming or circumventing limitations. 8. [deprecated] A malicious meddler who tries to discover sensitive information by poking around. Hence `password hacker', `network hacker'. The correct term for this sense is cracker.
| ...as Revox quoted earlier in the thread. |
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03-22-2003, 08:08 AM
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#32 | | World Champion
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 2,369
| This might help www.astalavista.com but dont blame me if your PC gets fucked up  |
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03-22-2003, 08:15 AM
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#33 | | World Champion
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 2,369
| Quote: Originally posted by Travelin' Soldier So theres no way that password crackers can work or anything? I really need this account. Its got a lot riding on it and Yahoo says they wont do it because everytime I e-mail them, they tell me I have to email here then I email them and they tell me to email this other email and its kuist repetitive. | http://www.astalavista.com/tools/chatsystems/misc/
I guess you might have been the victim of some of these programs  |
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03-22-2003, 11:34 AM
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#34 | | Kindergarten Newb
Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: alabama
Posts: 5
| <--hacker, im me if u want help or wutever
__________________  i know i may be young, but i’ve got feelings too.
and i need to do what i feel like doing.
so let me go and just listen.
all you people look at me like i’m a little girl.
well did you ever think it be okay for me to step into this world.
always saying little girl don’t step into the club.
well i’m just tryin’ to find out why cause dancing is what i love.
get it get it, get it get it [ugh]
get it get it, get it get it [whoa][do you like it]
get it get it, get it get it [ohh][this feels good]
i know i may come off quiet, i may come off shy.
but i feel like talking, feel like dancing when i see this guy.
what’s practical is logical. what the hell, who cares??
all I know is i’m so happy when you’re dancing there.
i’m a slave for you. i cannot hold it; i cannot control it.
i’m a slave 4 u. i won’t deny it; i'm not trying to hide it.
baby, don’t you wanna, dance upon me,
[i just wanna dance next to you]
to another time and place.
baby, don’t you wanna, dance upon me,
[are you ready]
leaving behind my name, my age.
[lets go]
[like that]
[you like it]
[now watch me]
get it get it, get it get it [ugh]
get it get it, get it get it [whoa]
get it get it, get it get it [ohh]
[panting]
i really wanna dance, tonight with you.
[i just can’t help myself]
i really wanna do what you want me to.
[i just feel i let myself go]
i really wanna dance, tonight with you.
[wanna see you move]
i really wanna do what you want me to.
[uh uh uh uh]
baby, don’t you wanna, dance upon me,
[i just wanna dance next to you]
to another time and place.
baby, don’t you wanna, dance upon me,
[are you ready]
leaving behind my name, my age.
i’m a slave for you. [take that] i cannot hold it; i cannot control it.
i’m a slave [it just feels right] for you. [it just feels good]
i won’t deny it; i’m not trying to hide it. [baby]
get it get it, get it get it [whoa]
get it get it, get it get it [whoa]
get it get it, get it get it [ohh]
[panting]
get it get it, get it get it [ugh]
get it get it, get it get it [whoa]
get it get it, get it get it [ohh]
[panting]
i’m a slave 4 u. [here we go now]
i cannot hold it; i cannot control it.
i’m a slave 4 u. [here we go] i won’t deny it, [yeah]
i’m not trying to hide it.
[like that] |
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03-22-2003, 11:58 AM
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#35 | | World Champion
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 2,369
| Quote: Originally posted by DIGITALrock1 <--hacker, im me if u want help or wutever | Hackers dont admit the're hackers in public  |
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03-22-2003, 12:48 PM
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#36 | | Mikhail
Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Frankfurt am Main
Posts: 10,137
| Quote: Originally posted by DIGITALrock1 <--hacker, im me if u want help or wutever | ...a.k.a script kiddie.  |
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03-22-2003, 12:59 PM
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#37 | | Not for sale!
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 8,539
| Quote: Originally posted by TBF Hackers dont admit the're hackers in public | Why wouldn't a hacker admit they're a hacker - being it's a
good thing?
Crackers on the other hand... heh... |
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03-22-2003, 02:58 PM
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#38 | | come away with me
Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Vancouver
Posts: 2,195
| Quote: Originally posted by Travelin' Soldier ^^^^^
hahahahaha
what a stupid motherfucker | haha, this thread is fucking tool central....
for anyone with a real passion and interest for computer science, the word "hacker" just makes you shake your head, because you know how much the word is abused....
if you want to get into a yahoo account, clandestine attacks are the only thing that will work... the actual passwords will probably be encrypted using a hash function (as most are)... so even if you found the database where the passwords are stored, that wouldn't help you much...thus your only hope is to find a meaningful collision of the password, and even with the van Oorschot/Wiener algorithm, that is still computationally infeasible at best... and thus, the point of the design.
but im sure "travellin soldier" would be more than willing to set that all up, and give it a try... |
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03-23-2003, 10:39 AM
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#39 | | Fifth Grader
Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 54
| Quote: Originally posted by pasta
if you want to get into a yahoo account, clandestine attacks are the only thing that will work... the actual passwords will probably be encrypted using a hash function (as most are)... so even if you found the database where the passwords are stored, that wouldn't help you much...thus your only hope is to find a meaningful collision of the password, and even with the van Oorschot/Wiener algorithm, that is still computationally infeasible at best... and thus, the point of the design.
| Interesting, but not nessecarily true. Some DB designers are fools. But providing the service yahoo is offering it probably is encrypted.
But I believe that if you can hack into yahoo, you can hack into some super computer to decryped it.  |
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03-23-2003, 03:38 PM
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#40 | | come away with me
Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Vancouver
Posts: 2,195
| well, i dont know if yahoo uses hash functions, but they should... its the most logical way of storing passwords.. the thing with hash functions, is that its impossible to decrypt them... it takes a bit-string of an unlimited length, and hashes it to a finite length bit string... for example it will take a 256 bit-lenth string, and hash it to 128 bits...
you cant decrypt it because there are an infinite number of possible decryptions... the obvious downside is that there are only 2^128 possible hash values (for a 128 bit hash length)... which is aboot 3.4 * 10^34.... which is usually enough for any database... heh...
and there are definitely easier ways to compromise the system... most likely through the OS.... |
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