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05-29-2006, 01:41 PM
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#1 | | Somebodys Watching...
Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chi-Town
Posts: 7,803
| Nakedness | | Just a question out of curiosity. This mainly deals with females but why do people feel like they're liberating themselves when they wear less clothing and show more skin? How is that "freedom" or "liberating"?
In my opinion, when women dress like that, they're selling themselves off. Isn't the biggest complaint by women that they don't want to be treated like pieces of meat? So, when women keeping wearing less clothing, doesn't that just show them as sex objects? I don't get it. |
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05-29-2006, 02:18 PM
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#2 | | LooSeN Up
Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kuwait
Posts: 3,866
| I totally agree with you, i guess women should see them self as diamonds that should be kept and not to be stolen.Get what i mean? Cause i really don't know how to explain  |
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05-29-2006, 05:44 PM
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#3 | | Somebodys Watching...
Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chi-Town
Posts: 7,803
| Haha, yeah, I know what you mean and I know what you're referring to.  |
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05-29-2006, 05:55 PM
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#4 | | June 27th
Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Right Behind You.
Posts: 20,416
| Maybe the "freedom" you speak of comes from the idea that they feel they don't have to follow a dress code? |
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05-29-2006, 07:08 PM
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#5 | | + Holy is the Lamb
Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: God's Army
Posts: 4,692
| I don't strip down to my underwear (some of which are super cute btw) to feel liberated or free. That's just ridiculous to me. Catch that 'to me' part. I mean whoopdeedoo if yah gotta strip to feel less imprisoned by society's bars, but that's kinda lame if yah gotta.
Sorry. |
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05-29-2006, 09:14 PM
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#6 | | Scrum-Tiddly-Umptious
Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The STL
Posts: 5,678
| I personally don't like exposing myself. I feel just out of control if I feel like people see to much. I DO wear short skirts/shorts in the summer. I wear tops with no sleeves, stuff like that, but thats because it's so freaking hot! I have an issue with people seeing too much of me. |
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05-30-2006, 02:08 AM
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#7 | | J Lo Fan!
Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ireland
Posts: 27,609
| I guess that if girls feel confident to wear stuff like that, I dont really have a problem with it. But I guess for me, I will not do that, probably mainly because I dont have the body to do so.
I think that some girls can show too much off and that you can be pretty or attractive or whatever without going down to that but I suppose people are free to dress as they choose. |
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05-30-2006, 04:51 AM
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#8 | | Mraz-a-licious
Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Iowa City @ U of I
Posts: 6,875
| I don't really see them as selling themselves out. I mean, okay, if they strip down and show it off to everyone than yeah, that's sort of demeaning towards themselves if they flaunt it around at everyone...it makes them look trashy. But I guess I read this thread a different way...the human body is a beautiful thing and when it can be done tastefully and without making the person look desparate, I think nakedness is a wonderful thing. Like nude beaches...so want to go to one. I don't think I'd take everything off, just the top...I realize they're not for everyone and that's fine, not everyone has to like them.
As for women not wanting to be seen as a piece of meat to men. Yeah, but you're always going to have that argument. There will always be some women out there who find it offensive no matter what. But I don't think that means the others, who don't find it offensive, should restrain themselves just because some disagree with it. |
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05-30-2006, 08:43 AM
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#9 | | Somebodys Watching...
Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chi-Town
Posts: 7,803
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Originally Posted by Swany Maybe the "freedom" you speak of comes from the idea that they feel they don't have to follow a dress code? | Yeah, but they don't have to show almost everything to show that "freedom", know what I mean? That's good that they feel some sort of freedom because they can do what they want and dress how they want, but how is showing alot of skin exactly liberating yourself? I mean, when you show too much skin, people are going to focus on your goodies and not you. Isn't that demeaning in a way? I definetley would hate it if people came up to me just because of my body. I don't want to be known for what I have, but I'd rather want to be known for the kind of person I am. Quote: |
Originally Posted by CrAZyBeAuTiFuL4 I don't really see them as selling themselves out. I mean, okay, if they strip down and show it off to everyone than yeah, that's sort of demeaning towards themselves if they flaunt it around at everyone...it makes them look trashy. But I guess I read this thread a different way...the human body is a beautiful thing and when it can be done tastefully and without making the person look desparate, I think nakedness is a wonderful thing. Like nude beaches...so want to go to one. I don't think I'd take everything off, just the top...I realize they're not for everyone and that's fine, not everyone has to like them.
As for women not wanting to be seen as a piece of meat to men. Yeah, but you're always going to have that argument. There will always be some women out there who find it offensive no matter what. But I don't think that means the others, who don't find it offensive, should restrain themselves just because some disagree with it. | I'm not saying women should just straight out refrain from it because not everyone agrees with it, I think i'm looking at the big picture. With your example, if you go to a nude beach (i've never been to one), wouldn't people just be staring you up and down and be getting nasty thoughts by looking at your body? I mean, isn't the point of a beach to have fun in the water and enjoy yourself. You can still do that without being nude. When it comes to being nude, most people will just look at your body and lust after that. You can't say that that's not true. The human body is a very beautiful thing and I, personally, don't think it's something that should be shown to everyone. You don't have to show you're beautiful by exposing yourself, you can do that in other ways: through yoru actions. When it comes to showing skin, even when you're trying to convey a certain message, people will look past that because their desires will be too strong when they look at a "beautiful" body. That's atleast what I think. You can't deny the fact that when a person sees someone else naked, certain desires will arise in their minds. It happens to everyone that's human. But how is beinig naked a good way to prove a point or how is being naked showing you being free when ultimately all people will do is get bad thoughts? Look at that Christina shoot, she bares it all. Any guy who looks at that won't care if she's trying to say something, all they'll care about is if they can get a good look at her "stuff". Is that liberating?
If you compare that to a woman who covers herself, aren't people more prone to like her more because of her intellect? Isn't that more pleasing than a person liking you because of your body?
Last edited by GrgotSlave : 05-30-2006 at 08:48 AM.
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05-30-2006, 12:23 PM
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#10 | | World Champion
Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: nWo City
Posts: 10,827
| I wouldn't know the answer to your question. But I do know that when I see a girl with skimpy clothing, I don't see a girl who's almost naked, I see a girl with a sign around her neck. The sign says "Look at me, I think I'm hot." |
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