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02-13-2004, 06:13 AM
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#41 | | John 6:44-47 (NIV)
Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: i rep the 'pep' in va
Posts: 12,651
| Let's see here, I smoked pot maybe three to five times (can't remember because well, duh) and I didn't really get anything out of it besides feeling "accepted" among a group of people who never really cared and still won't. I stopped that, because it was a dumb decision but pretty much everyone is curious as to how you feel and I remember throwing up at least twice when I did it. One time my brother and I smoked some weed before school and I threw up in the cafeteria in the morning (where we were held until the morning bell rang). And another time was when I smoked out of a water bong and had way too many cigarettes and I thought I was the coolest thing. Then realized that if this happens each and every time I throw up, I might as well not do it. Plus, it's not safe and I hate the feeling of being 'high' because it just made me feel stupid. My main point is that it is LAME.
I used to drink alcohol with the same people that I was smoking weed with. I liked alcohol because I never really drank BEER beer, I just had Smirnoff Ice most of the time and those were light and they tasted good. The first time I got drunk I didn't throw up, but the second time I did. (I had to drink Budweiser and Michelob light then) I kept doing this for a while because I liked the taste and sort of the feeling, but it's very depressing once you consume too much and wake up the next morning feeling like poo. And it didn't occur to me that those moments could have been spent doing something productive, not inducive, for a change.
The common thing for me would be to vomit after each time I tried any kind of drugs, and it dawned on me that I wasn't getting anywhere with my life doing them so I stopped. I never experienced further drugs because I know the after-effects like how intense they get for you. To each their own, but again, it's dumb and a stupid decision (not just once, but) each and every time you do it.
I smoked off and on for at least five years, and I quit almost two years ago. (April 27th, 2002) I felt that all I was doing to my body was harming it, not letting it breathe the proper way it should. Sure, I was addicted and sure it was illegal, but around this time, all I was concerned with was looking cool. I got into the habit just trying it out when I was in like 5th or 6th grade. My mom even bought me cigarettes before, which now that I think about it. It's a direct translation in my opinion of her pretty much telling me to kill myself because that's what she was supporting. Though, we all may be living to die already, the shorter route is not smoking until you get cancer, then die, it's doing things worse than this. Like combinations and whatnot. Please don't.
While your case may not to look cool but just tried these things because you wanted to, and knew you'd have a good time, your mind is only deceiving you. Drugs do not make you smarter, but dumber, some drugs even lower your ability to reproduce. But that's a whole 'nother subject that you'll probably get a novel from me later on in the year (if it comes up). They only hinder, they do not just cause fender bender's, they may even make you slender, and if you continue to do what you're doing, you will never be a winner.
I don't support anyone's right to drink or smoke or do drugs, I will not honor their opinion nor their decision to do it. I will always tell them straight up that it is only hurting themselves (though, some use that as their defence - which is a cop-out, because of the cycle that their consequences creates upon not just themselves but the people they 'love' and society as a whole) and I will always make sure they know where I stand on what they do with their time at home and their hobbies.
That's not a fulfilling life. One way or the other, and it's not the way you should go if you need help. Talk to the people around you about your problem, with someone who cares and because they care, they will get you help. To those that still do drugs on a day-to-day basis, I can honestly say that your life sucks.
Though, you may have been offended, that is what this post is for to offend you to want to change your life/lifestyle.
If all you want to do is argue (in a responding post) that it is your right and your freedom to try what you want then don't even bother, 'cause I've heard it all before. |
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02-13-2004, 07:08 AM
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#42 | | Alien Elf With Clogs
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 6,346
| ^^Errick, some of that was good points. In fact, a whole lot of it was good points, but the part I disagree with is the not respecting people's decisions.
I fully agree that those are bad things to do and can mess any person up quite a bit, BUT on the other hand, a person also has a right to do those things PROVIDED they don't hurt anyone else on the side. While many people take drugs and/or alcohol and then get all violent/nasty/etc, and others get all this way or that...not violent, necessarily, but ways which hurt others somehow or other (driving accidents caused by, for example), but then there ALSO are those people who can do stuff like that and then NOT get in car wrecks/etc (because they have sense enough not to drive), and NOT do this or that/etc, and just get all high with their friends in some room somewhere, and it wears off in like a few days or so........now, while I am not condoning drug usage, I hardly think you should be so on-the-attack against anyone who is a drug user.
The habit is lame/etc, YES, but you shouldn't be attacking the PEOPLE who have those habits unless those people are causing violence/accidents/distressing other people/etc... (which not all are).
"If all you want to do is argue (in a responding post) that it is your right and your freedom to try what you want then don't even bother, 'cause I've heard it all before."
So, in other words, what you are saying is that you are closed-minded and will not accept anyone as human who uses drugs? That's highly hypocritical, considering you were once that way yourself, unless I read you wrong.
I'm not saying you have to accept the habit but I AM saying you have to accept the person AND you have to accept that that person has that habit AND you have to accept that that person is not going to change his/her habit because you throw similar things in the person's face 24/7.
Is that going to make them stop? NO
Is that going to make them hate you? maybe
Is that going to lose you a friend? quite possibly
You don't have to support the habit, but you should support the person. Talk things through with him/her, not shove your personal anti-drug agenda down their throats. Tell them you don't approve and that's fine. If, every time you see them, you leave and tell them you won't be friends with them unless they are "clean" of it and won't speak to them otherwise,....hmmm........you're just fueling fire and actually contributing MORE to the drug use than anything. (Think about it---if a person started drugs for whatever reason, and you were his/her friend and decided to stop being their friend because of that, that will probably depress them more, making them take the drugs MORE, not less!)
Use your brain and use your heart. You are young and maybe have not thought this far ahead yet, but does your heart really tell you to HATE such people? If so, I'd say that's not much of a heart, and I'd also be extremely surprised to see/hear that from you as well.
Besides, if you are THERE for the person (YES, it is okay to leave WHEN they are going to do drugs), and if you show them how fun and great of a person YOU are and show them your skills and show them that you do NOT do drugs.....and show them your determination....I think THAT would be more of a deterrent than anything, and if they still do drugs after that, oh well, keep being their friends ANYWAY! ......Friendship isn't conditional. If it is something that is conditional, that isn't friendship. Maybe they will quit sometime down the road. I can tell you they most certainly won't ever quit if you give them your current kind of an attitude on it, though. |
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02-13-2004, 01:23 PM
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#43 | | Mraz's Bitch
Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: atx, biatch!
Posts: 6,830
| I've smoked pot but I never really got into it. I've also done painkillers like once (not including times I've HAD to take them) and I hated it so I never did that again. I drink occasionally but alcohol usually just makes me drowsy so ehh. *shrug* |
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02-13-2004, 02:22 PM
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#44 | | AUGUST30THILOVEHIM
Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Chi-City
Posts: 22,258
| Drugs are for thugs, crack is wack, etc.
No drugs for me...never have, never will. |
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02-13-2004, 02:42 PM
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#45 | | sexy.back
Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: STL!
Posts: 13,865
| Never touched a drug. But I dunno, I'm naive to the whole "drug" thing. I hear about people selling cocaine and how one day I'll be offered it. And sure, I've seen that like once in East St. Louis but like, I've never offered alcohol, drugs, or cigarettes for that matter. But I'm not saying it doesn't exist, obviously, it does. But yeah, never tried 'em. |
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02-13-2004, 03:03 PM
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#46 | | AUGUST30THILOVEHIM
Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Chi-City
Posts: 22,258
| Goodbye beloved one, you know what I am. You won't see my face no more, I'm a PROVIDER. (?) <3 |
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02-15-2004, 06:43 AM
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#47 | | Paris <3
Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Key West Fl
Posts: 4,522
| Quote: Originally posted by WannaBeBritney Drugs are for thugs, crack is wack, etc.
No drugs for me...never have, never will. | I like that in you it takes a strong person to say/do that...  |
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02-15-2004, 11:29 AM
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#48 | | you and I both
Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 'round here
Posts: 8,114
| Surprisingly enough, no. I'm a party girl and a people pleaser, but i also know better than to give into crap like that...i'm perfectly capable of having fun w/o drugs so yeah. I do drink on occasion but that's about it. |
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02-15-2004, 11:35 AM
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#49 | | you and I both
Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 'round here
Posts: 8,114
| Quote: Originally posted by WannaBeBritney Goodbye beloved one, you know what I am. You won't see my face no more, I'm a PROVIDER. (?) <3 | ...gotta face the streets tonight.
N*E*R*D!!!!!! <3!!!!! |
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02-15-2004, 12:51 PM
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#50 | | John 6:44-47 (NIV)
Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: i rep the 'pep' in va
Posts: 12,651
| Quote: Originally posted by FormerlyLBFG ^^Errick, some of that was good points. In fact, a whole lot of it was good points, but the part I disagree with is the not respecting people's decisions.
I fully agree that those are bad things to do and can mess any person up quite a bit, BUT on the other hand, a person also has a right to do those things PROVIDED they don't hurt anyone else on the side. While many people take drugs and/or alcohol and then get all violent/nasty/etc, and others get all this way or that...not violent, necessarily, but ways which hurt others somehow or other (driving accidents caused by, for example), but then there ALSO are those people who can do stuff like that and then NOT get in car wrecks/etc (because they have sense enough not to drive), and NOT do this or that/etc, and just get all high with their friends in some room somewhere, and it wears off in like a few days or so........now, while I am not condoning drug usage, I hardly think you should be so on-the-attack against anyone who is a drug user.
The habit is lame/etc, YES, but you shouldn't be attacking the PEOPLE who have those habits unless those people are causing violence/accidents/distressing other people/etc... (which not all are).
"If all you want to do is argue (in a responding post) that it is your right and your freedom to try what you want then don't even bother, 'cause I've heard it all before."
So, in other words, what you are saying is that you are closed-minded and will not accept anyone as human who uses drugs? That's highly hypocritical, considering you were once that way yourself, unless I read you wrong.
I'm not saying you have to accept the habit but I AM saying you have to accept the person AND you have to accept that that person has that habit AND you have to accept that that person is not going to change his/her habit because you throw similar things in the person's face 24/7.
Is that going to make them stop? NO
Is that going to make them hate you? maybe
Is that going to lose you a friend? quite possibly
You don't have to support the habit, but you should support the person. Talk things through with him/her, not shove your personal anti-drug agenda down their throats. Tell them you don't approve and that's fine. If, every time you see them, you leave and tell them you won't be friends with them unless they are "clean" of it and won't speak to them otherwise,....hmmm........you're just fueling fire and actually contributing MORE to the drug use than anything. (Think about it---if a person started drugs for whatever reason, and you were his/her friend and decided to stop being their friend because of that, that will probably depress them more, making them take the drugs MORE, not less!)
Use your brain and use your heart. You are young and maybe have not thought this far ahead yet, but does your heart really tell you to HATE such people? If so, I'd say that's not much of a heart, and I'd also be extremely surprised to see/hear that from you as well.
Besides, if you are THERE for the person (YES, it is okay to leave WHEN they are going to do drugs), and if you show them how fun and great of a person YOU are and show them your skills and show them that you do NOT do drugs.....and show them your determination....I think THAT would be more of a deterrent than anything, and if they still do drugs after that, oh well, keep being their friends ANYWAY! ......Friendship isn't conditional. If it is something that is conditional, that isn't friendship. Maybe they will quit sometime down the road. I can tell you they most certainly won't ever quit if you give them your current kind of an attitude on it, though. | What I meant by "always" telling people how I stand on things, when they're talking about partying and stuff like that [that I don't care about] they say how messed up they are, and I tell them that they're pretty much wasting their life away. I wouldn't ever desert them, come on. I'm not that bad of a person.
Do you think I walk around waiting for someone to say something to me about drugs/cigarettes/drinking? They present it upon themselves for me to pick at. It's my job to do it, because they don't realize what they're doing with their lives. It takes a view from the other side to make them open their eyes. They want to seem cool by mentioning it to me or mentioning it to their friends so that they'll receive some sort of prize. If anything, you will lose what you have to get what you think you need. Only resulting in a life full of darkness and misery, not to mention depression.
I know how to treat people. I'm not insincere. I was just venting on how dumb people can be. I support them as living people, but I just wish that they knew what will happen on the day they die from what they do or just when they die. They will be judged for the, in my opinion, meaningless empty lives that they lived. If that's all they concern themselves with, that is all they will get. That's my view on people who destroy their lives every day from simple curiosity. Sure, try it once, and then you know what it feels like. You don't have to continue doing it because you'll then get addicted to it. And addictions lead to downfalls, and maybe that's what they need. To be broken to be able to piece back their life together. The right way. Otherwise, it'll happen again. |
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