soulfire

okay

Starshine

Wow, I should look back at my post or something, because either Stinger way over-reacted and put words in my mouth, or Im suffering from amnesia.

soulfire

i actually meant to reply and say i agreed with ur post :[

Starshine

Thanks

PapRoach123

I am talking about the general issue. Not everything I'm talking about applies specifically to you and what you might or might not have said. Nobody is putting words in your mouth.

I'm not overreacting when I'm stating facts. I'm not making this up. This stuff is an ongoing issue. I have not yet met one person here who likes those gay parades. Perhaps it's because it's like 5 or 6 years over here already, since gay marriage was legalized. People get tired of stuff. Especially stuff they weren't completely in agreement with in the first place.

You said you don't see what's wrong with it. I tried to explain, but it seems as though I was unable to show you what the people's thoughts are on the subject, and why they think these gay parades should stop.

I'm unsure if it was even your intention to find out more about that, or that you just wanted to say your opinion and be done with it. Either way is fine with me though.

Beautiful Mistake

Wow, you are SO 1998.

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Starshine

I was refering to when you quoted and replied to me. Comparing how gay people feel to people who survived Hitler? THATS over-reacting, my dear.

The idea of a gay pride parade isnt to victimize themselves, its to show pride in who they are. Thats very different. The same idea is the cruise that Rosie O'Donnell and her parter run. Its not just for gay families, but you have to have to be okay with the idea of gay families, because its a place where they can be themselves and proud of who they are. They arent going 'Oh we're victims.' they're just saying 'This is who we are and we're proud of that.' I think its commendable that they publically say that they're okay with who they are, and that goes for anybody not just gays.

Nanny

I really don't see the big deal about having one day each year where gays can say "YAY I'M GAY". Really, I don't. Stinger, I wonder if you also have a problem with February being Black History Month each year?

PapRoach123

Have you got a notepad file with all these standard remarks stored inside or something?

I was just using that as an example, but I get the feeling you're not really interested in participating in the debate anyways and that's okay with me.


Perhaps the ones who are complaining are the ones overreacting, not the guy who is telling the story. I just state what I see. Claiming a day in the year entirely devoted to you is asking a lot. Claiming the streets of the city entirely devoted to your personal business that you know people aren't comfortable with, is asking a lot. The excuse I'm given is, yeah but we had it tough so we deserve this. If I'm overreacting, then sure as hell I'm not the only one.

As far as the comparisson goes, people who survived Hitler got their lives back, they got a day in the year of celebration, they got the streets to use to celebrate their liberation and everyone could join in. That is a good reason to have these celebrations. And even THAT society is beginning to grow tired of in my country. Which I do not agree with, but that is an entirely different subject. But they're about the only group of people important enough to deserve these things. Well where I live at least. So yeah I look at celebrations of that magnitude as being something with a very important meaning to the majority of a country.


I know that, but I'm not the one bringing up that excuse for it.


I don't know what gay parades look like in your country, but THAT is not who they (as in all the gays) are. It's not for nothing that the gay society in my country is devided in two halfs. One group loves the gay parade, the other hates it, and is ashamed of it even. Not to confuse with gays who are ashamed of themselves. Not every single gay is in favour of the gay parade because the gay parade gives off the wrong image of who a gay person really is. It only covers half the gay society and the other half is automatically stereotyped by society because of it. And that is not fair.

Bearing that in mind, I do think these gay parades aren't needed. They do more harm than good when only a limited amount of people enjoy it, while the remaining majority is bothered by it. And because the streets belong to everyone, a change of scenery is all that would be required to prevent that. Unless the gay cares more about his own personal enjoyment than he does about what society feels which includes half of his own "kind" even.


I don't know what that is, so I couldn't tell you. Kind of not relevant either, unless you're player hating.

I don't recall any special days for hetero sexuals and bi-sexuals either. I do notice that you're turning the issue on the person. As if I'm the only one who feels this way. You're dealing with society and I'm only reflecting what they are thinking. I'm not saying it's always right what it is that they are thinking but I do understand them regarding this issue. Personally I am not troubled with gay parades. I agree with society when they say that they don't want to see that stuff, but it doesn't bother me so much that I need to make sure that it stops.

So if, since you seem to be playing it on the person anyways, you or whomever would want to hang me for understanding what society is thinking, that's your choice, but it's not going to help you, nor the issue anything.

Nanny

I'm not player hating. I'm just curious if you have such strong opinions about Gay Pride Days because it contradicts equality (I think that's what you've been saying), then Black History Month, which is basically an entire month dedicated to Black-Pride, would also be under that category.

I don't see your point. Heterosexuals and Bisexuals didn't make a day for themselves. Gays did. If you want, you can start up whatever pride day you want. I won't stop you. If you want to make a "Stinger Pride Day", the so be it.

In America, the First Amendment allows citizens the freedom of speech and the freedom of assembly. Canada allows the same freedoms. Why shouldn't we be able to utilize those freedoms? Or are gays the exception to the rule?

But I'm not talking to society, Stinger. I'm talking to you.

You know what I do when I don't want to see women stripping? I don't go to the strippers. If you don't want to see the gay parades, then don't go to the parade. Simple. As. That.

Hmm... people being executed for such foolish things? Sounds familiar.