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Old 05-06-2002, 11:07 AM   #1
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Thumbs down Dutch rightist Fortuyn shot DEAD!

Okay I was totally overwhelmed when a friend told me a few hours ago that he was shot. It wasn't yet confirmed that he was dead, so I was like "Damn, I hope they can help him..." Well minutes later we heard on the news that he indeed was dead, so I checked the CNN homepage to post the article:




Dutch rightist Fortuyn shot dead

May 6, 2002 Posted: 1:53 PM EDT (1753 GMT)


AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (CNN) -- Maverick Dutch right-wing politician Pim Fortuyn has been shot dead, police have told CNN.


Fortuyn has sparked controversy in The Netherlands with his far-right views

Fortuyn, 54, was shot in the head at least three times at close range as he was going to a Dutch national radio station in Hilversum, the Associated Press reported.

Opinion polls had shown that Fortuyn and his Pim Fortuyn's List party, running on an anti-immigration platform, were scheduled to win a large block in the country's parliament in May 15 elections.

A man who was believed to have been carrying a gun is reported to have been arrested outside the Media Park in Hilversum, 20 kilometres (12 miles) southeast of Amsterdam.

Journalist Sander Van Hoorn told CNN: "Fortuyn was shot in the head, just behind his left ear, and in his neck and chest.

"Police have been searching for a single gunman, who was wearing a baseball cap. A police helicopter joined the search.

"People witnessed the gunman open fire and four people are reported to have chased after him."

Fortuyn's rise mirrors a right-wing resurgence in several European countries, lately highlighted by the far right-winger Jean Marie Le Pen's surprise showing in the first round of French presidential elections. Le Pen was soundly defeated in Sunday's run-off vote by incumbent Jacques Chirac.

CNN's European political editor Robin Oakley, who was in the Netherlands on his way to interview the politician, said: "Fortuyn was part of a new wave of Dutch politicians. He ran on an anti-immigration platform, but insisted he was not like Le Pen.

"He said he wanted nothing to do with Le Pen, but said the Netherlands was 'full up' with 16 million people. Although he said he did not want to deport immigrants, he was critical of Muslims for not joining in Dutch life, and wanted to restrict benefits to people who can speak Dutch.

"His party Leefbaar Nederland won over 30 % of votes in Rotterdam elections and it could have been the third or fourth biggest party in general elections next month.

"If the right toppled the socialists, Fortuyn could have become part of the coalition government."

Oakley said that Fortuyn was a former Marxist and sociology professor and newspaper columnist and was 'out of the staid style of Dutch politics. He was homosexual and drove around in a car with blacked out windows'.

Fortuyn's platform seemed out of place in the Netherlands, which has a reputation for liberalism.

It was the first country to legalise gay marriages, regulate prostitution, approve and control euthanasia, and tolerate the over-the-counter sale of marijuana in hundreds of "coffee shops."

Though tolerant of such subcultures, Fortuyn's popularity has exposed a deep vein of suspicion of immigrants in Europe's most densely populated country, about two million of whose 16 million people are not native Dutch. About 800,000 are Muslims.

He was founder of Leefbaar Nederland, which stunned the Netherlands in March when it won 35 percent of the vote for city council seats in Rotterdam, the second-largest city, The Associated Press reports.

Fortuyn advocates a ban on immigration and has criticised Islam as a "backward culture."

Although he no longer leads the party, polls project that it could win 24 seats in the 150-member parliament in May 15 national elections


Emergency workers attempted to revive Fortuyn after the shooting

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Rest In Peace, Pim. Many disagreed with you, many agreed. But needless to say, this should have never happened. This prooves once again that we are living in a pretty fucked up world. And since it is a political murder, it's gonna stay pretty fucked up for my country for quite a while...
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Old 05-06-2002, 11:12 AM   #2
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Okay I was totally overwhelmed when a friend told me a few hours ago that he was shot. It wasn't yet confirmed that he was dead, so I was like "Damn, I hope they can help him..." Well minutes later we heard on the news that he indeed was dead, so I checked the CNN homepage to post the article:
yeah i heard about that, that's sad....i didn't know anything about him but it sounded brutal, and there is no justification that i know of for that to have happened.
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Old 05-06-2002, 11:14 AM   #3
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Terrible ... I saw it on the news about 2 hours ago ... just terrible ... what a fucked world we're living in ...
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Old 05-06-2002, 11:36 AM   #4
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Well hot diggity dammit. That sucks some major kickin booty.
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Old 05-06-2002, 12:55 PM   #5
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When i read that this morning, i was stunned. It will be interesting to find out whodunit. I tend to share many of his beliefs and even if i didn't, nobody deserves to be murdered.
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This is just soooo terrible! I still cant believe it. WHY can somebody do this??? I know that some things he said wheren't totally right, but to kill somebody because you dont agree...... I suppossed to vote for him. What the hell is going on her inthis f*cking coutry... I cant even walk alone in the street in some parts of my hometown and not only at night. And finally there was this man who wanted to do something about that, and then some stupid man(It was a 33 year old dutch man who did it who doesn't even live close to the places Fortuyn wanted to do something about) kills him. how can he do this???? im just really sad right now..........

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Old 05-06-2002, 10:58 PM   #7
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It's very unfortunate that people have to die like this...

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This is just soooo terrible! I still cant believe it. WHY can somebody do this??? I know that some things he said wheren't totally right, but to kill somebody because you dont agree...... I suppossed to vote for him. What the hell is going on her inthis f*cking coutry... I cant even walk alone in the street in some parts of my hometown and not only at night. And finally there was this man who wanted to do something about that, and then some stupid man(It was a 33 year old dutch man who did it who doesn't even live close to the places Fortuyn wanted to do something about) kills him. how can he do this???? im just really sad right now..........
Yeah I know what you're feeling. Finally somebody recognized what has been going on and he wasn't afraid to step up to the plate. He said exactly what he thought and with many things he was correct. Of course there also were things that he wasn't so delicate about, but he sure as hell was no Le Pen, like the media liked to label on him. They twisted his words and made him sound like a maniac, which in fact was totally off the scale. But people believed the media (like the dumbasses that they are always do) and what do ya get? Right.

I always stated that it's good that we can choose our own leaders, but the election is multiple-choice and the candidates are all alike. But Pim Fortuyn changed my statement when he arrived at the front lines. Finally some differences. What will happen to our democracy now? Pim stood for freedom of speech. They kill him. So did they kill freedom of speech now too? Will we ever dare to speak our mind again without the fear of being shot to death? Questions that keep arising. It's going to be a tough period the upcoming months.

You might know that I live in Rotterdam, one of the biggest cities with the most criminal activities of our country. I once was attacked by a group of I-dunno-what-kind-of-nationality in MY OWN STREET at 5 PM when I was out to get some food. I just walked there for crying out loud! I didn't do anything offensive in their direction. It sucks big time. I'm gonna move out soon. High up north where such is not as bad as it is in RotterDAMN.

I haven't watched the news all day yet, so I don't know if Pim's party is still going to continue. I hope they will, cause then we can still vote for them. Whether or not their spokesman is dead, they might still be able to continue his beliefs.
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Damn, thats totally ****ed up
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I heard about that..... the world is going crazy - I know this man was very extream but killing him is even worse......

Things like this is so crazy....it reminds me of the murder on the swedish premier minister in the 80's I think it was.....scary!
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