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Old 03-26-2004, 01:47 AM   #71
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Just keep your smoke to yourself and don't pollute my air with it, then it's all fine with me.

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1. You people stink, and it takes hours for the smell to go away.

2. My throat contracts as a result to the bad air, thus allowing me to suffocate like a fireman without a gasmask in a burning house.



So yeah, if you don't want to be the proud owner of a few shattered bones, I suggest you stay as far away from me as possible, heh.


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Haha....it's funny. I don't smoke, but these exact sorts of overly-generalized reactions from the nonsmokers against smokers almost make me want to date a smoker.
Warning: never make out with someone who smokes. It's gross.
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Old 03-26-2004, 02:52 AM   #72
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Oh fun, a post for debate!

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I don't think it's a problem.
I believe this sentence misses something. It should be rephrased as "I don't believe it's a problem to myself personally." You can't speak for everyone, so I wouldn't try it either. Smoking is a huge problem to many people.

In the old days, it could be compared to black people in the bus. Black people are not allowed in the bus. Non-smokers cannot enter the bus (not being able to breathe in it). Black people can't help that they're black. Non-smokes can't help that they can't breathe in a bus full of smoke. Smokers however, can help that they smoke in that bus. Fortunately, people aren't allowed to smoke in the bus anymore.

There are still plenty of places however, where non-smokers cannot go because of this. So what do we have? Exactly, a problem.

The problem is there. Whether you want to see it, or not.


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If a teenager smokes a few cigarettes because it looks cool and falls hopelessly into nicotine addiciton, that teenager deserves lung cancer for believing that looking cool matters to people.
This statment made me lose all faith in the person who wrote this. You can't be more ignorant regarding the things you say than this here. I believe this person is spitting out words without even realizing what they mean.

If person thinks someone deserves lung cancer for something like that, then by his own reasoning this person deserves a car accident just for writing this.


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Smokers don't care about you. This person decides to light something on fire and breathe through it because it tastes good and helps them relax.
Another generalisation of a group of smokers as if every smoker doesn't give a flying fuck about anybody. If that were true then I'd enforce the ideal to make smoking to be against the law with a high pentalty pasted to it. If the smoker doesn't give a shit about me, then I don't give a shit about busting the smoker's face up.

Unfortunately there are a lot of smokers who indeed don't give a shit about anybody around them. But most smokers do realize that innocent people do suffer from their habit, and thus they make sure nobody's around when they light one up.


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When you smoke, you're not showing people how cool you are. You're really telling everyone that you couldn't give two shits about your health or what you look like or the state of the world, or anything.
Heh. Like, "everyone" cares about how you don't give two shits about your own health. As if that's even an interesting topic to pay attention to anymore. You're telling yourself that maybe. Everyone else doesn't give a damn.


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They aren't smoking in my bedroom or leaving their cigarette butts in my laundry; they're doing whatever they do and smoking when they want. It's a choice that some people make which sometimes kills them. It's not killing me or you, so who are we to dispute their actions?
Ignorance, heh. This person really doesn't know what he's talking about, does he? *gives person decent education on how to shut up when you don't know shit about your topic*


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Here comes argument number two that is complete crap: second-hand smoke. I have plenty of friends who smoke and zero lung cancer. Want to know how I do it? I don't breathe in their smoke. People who die because of second-hand smoke are breathing too much of other people's cigarette smoking. Doesn't sound too much like a perplexing problem to me.
Oh wow, Mr. 60 minutes. Don't breathe in their smoke. So what do I do then, not breathe at all? It's very hard to extract and isolate smoke from breathable air, you know. This dude seriously lacks braincells.

Points for corey: FAIL. Next!
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Old 03-26-2004, 02:57 AM   #73
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All I can say is that I agree with stinger and every one els here who is against smoke.

Just to let you know what side i'm on.

And I do not get why so many people start to smoke when they know how bad it is.

Though the kids that has parants who smoke have a biger chanse to start smoking.

But tell me.

Why?.
Why did you start to smoke (thats for the smoker )
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Old 03-26-2004, 03:04 AM   #74
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debate wise... i think the article wasnt meant to be scrutinzed to a T. i think it was just posted so that we can see that its not that much of a problem as the media and the truth make it out to be. its like a choice.. but stinger i do see your perspective so dont think im just overlooking it. i truly do.
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Old 03-26-2004, 03:33 AM   #75
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debate wise... i think the article wasnt meant to be scrutinzed to a T. i think it was just posted so that we can see that its not that much of a problem as the media and the truth make it out to be. its like a choice..
I think that when trying to state a point, it's important that everything you say makes some sense in some way. Because if you start shooting words around just to brush up the article, in reality these things drag down the point you're trying to make.

People aren't gonna buy it when you write it like that. So it doesn't help you anything...


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but stinger i do see your perspective so dont think im just overlooking it. i truly do.
Alright.
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Old 03-26-2004, 03:41 AM   #76
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now tell me sting, isnt my signature just orgasmic? <3 :-*
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Old 03-26-2004, 05:14 AM   #77
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now tell me sting, isnt my signature just orgasmic? <3 :-*
Shakira, huh? Nah.
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Old 03-26-2004, 06:37 AM   #78
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nope, but my dad and mom smoke a lot
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Old 03-26-2004, 08:02 AM   #79
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Heh. Like, "everyone" cares about how you don't give two shits about your own health. As if that's even an interesting topic to pay attention to anymore. You're telling yourself that maybe. Everyone else doesn't give a damn.
The guy actually isn't a smoker, so he must give two shits about his own health by his reasoning.

Oh and edit: I heard something interesting on the news last night. Of the billions paid out by the tabacco industry to help former smokers with lung cancer, only a few million was used for that purpose. The rest was used to fill up holes in the budget, and road work. How f***ed up is that? The smoking industry should not have to pay money to build new roads, that money was won in a law suit where they stated that all the money would go to support non smoking campains and towards health care of former smokers. Politicians lie, and I am seriously ticked about this. One more way to screw over the people !

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Old 03-26-2004, 10:53 AM   #80
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The guy actually isn't a smoker, so he must give two shits about his own health by his reasoning.
Was using the 'you' in the general form. You know, the English language seriously lacks words in certain places...

*realizes that this particular thing in Dutch is the exact same way*

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Oh and edit: I heard something interesting on the news last night. Of the billions paid out by the tabacco industry to help former smokers with lung cancer, only a few million was used for that purpose. The rest was used to fill up holes in the budget, and road work. How f***ed up is that? The smoking industry should not have to pay money to build new roads, that money was won in a law suit where they stated that all the money would go to support non smoking campains and towards health care of former smokers. Politicians lie, and I am seriously ticked about this. One more way to screw over the people !
Oh yeah that happens a lot. People suck, heh. Like, when you're paying money for this great cause that helps children in 3rd world countries with food and clothing and a healthy life, in reality you're paying for a nice big swimming pool in a select few individuals' backyards.
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