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09-26-2003, 06:29 AM
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#1 | | World Champion
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| Going Solo=Greedy | | Beyonce, Justin, and now Gwen Stefani. Whats the point in Gwen going solo? She was the only one singing in the first place. They were the backups. Everybody is just greedy now because they think they're so much better than everyone else. And that is why I have never bought a soloists record after theyve broken from the group (except for Left Eye, but the obvious reason). It's about the more IGNORANT and GREEDY thing Ive ever seen. Sad, really. Thats when you realize people are only in it for money.
In teh group, Beyonce always has the final say in everything, so everything turned out how SHE wanted it. Same with Justin. He was the only one that really ever sang, everyone else was backup. I think it's stupid when you abandon what made you famous, because that dies out, but you always have your greedy solo career while everyone else suffers... |
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09-26-2003, 07:30 AM
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#2 | | World Champion
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| UGH I agree about Gwen, WTF is the point to it? Also with Dave Matthews, he was the band, he was the only one who sang so what's the point in going solo? |
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09-26-2003, 07:42 AM
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#3 | | RJ Worth Every Penny
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| Quote: Originally posted by WhatItsLike2Bme UGH I agree about Gwen, WTF is the point to it? Also with Dave Matthews, he was the band, he was the only one who sang so what's the point in going solo? | maybe the group/band doesn't want to do a certain style of song, or the artist feels they need to explore different avenues, the violin guy from DMB is having a solo project too. |
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09-26-2003, 09:27 AM
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#4 | | Mraz-a-licious
Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Iowa City @ U of I
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| GWEN is going solo?!?!? WTF??? I remember back when Tragic Kingdom came out, she made a big deal about them being a GROUP and not just a SINGER. That seriously pisses me off...
But to be a little hipocritical here....*lol* I don't think going solo is always a bad thing. In the case of Gwen I think it is just because they made such a big deal about them being a GROUP. But yeah, people only tend to look at going solo as "selfish" when that solo career turns out to be hugely successful.
Nsync: Justin went solo and had tremendous success...he got ripped on for "leaving what made him famous." and being "too good for the other guys." JC also put out a solo album that didn't go anywhere and he doesn't get any flack for it.
BSB: Nick and AJ both have solo careers. AJ was doing his Johnny No Name act while he was making an album and touring with BSB. However, neither of their solo attempts were widely successful so no one really bothered to call them selfish or anything.
Dentiny's Child: Both Kelly and Beyonce did solo projects but Beyonce got more fam and she was the selfish one, while Kelly [like JC], got no flack for it.
BonJovi: Both Jon and Richie went on solo stints while the group was on hiatus. They both put out one solo album and Jon was a little more successful than Richie, but neither of them were tremendously successful and neither of them got dissed for it.
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09-26-2003, 09:36 AM
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#5 | | RJ Worth Every Penny
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| Quote: Originally posted by CrAZyBeAuTiFuL4
Dentiny's Child: Both Kelly and Beyonce did solo projects but Beyonce got more fam and she was the selfish one, while Kelly [like JC], got no flack for it. | so did Michelle  |
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09-26-2003, 09:45 AM
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#6 | | Mraz-a-licious
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| Quote: Originally posted by Dangerously Crazy so did Michelle | Ahh, sorry! *lol* I never heard about that  |
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09-26-2003, 10:26 AM
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#7 | | AUGUST30THILOVEHIM
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| All groups/bands eventually take a hiatus or break up. It's only natural artists want to do their own thing where they have control over the material and whatnot. I can understand it.
People like Justin, however, are just annoying because he essentially WAS *NSYNC, as was Beyoncé in DC. But...you still have other people you have to work with and answer to...you all have to agree on things to make it work. |
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09-26-2003, 10:40 AM
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#8 | | June 27th
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| Justin's makes completely no sense to me. He was in NSync, NSync was at the top, he was the spotlight of NSync, whats the need of going solo. He was the only member of the group who actually wrote the songs, so if he wanted to change the direction, he could have done it himself.
BSB, on the other hand was on hiatus while the rest of the group got married and made babies and whatever. I can assume Nick would have been bored, and he did it just for the sake of doing something. Not to steal the spotlight or whatever.
Spice Girls, same thing. They'd just finished their tour, two of them needed to take time off to have babies and get married, so naturally, Melanie C was bored as well, and did her own thing. The group then went to split, and they all went solo from there.
Gwen, I'd imagine being in a group/band, you don't have full credibility, and you dont write the songs yourself. So I can see it being greedy, but I also saw it as inevitable with her award winning stints with Moby and Eve.
Beyonce, was inevitable. She's the same as Justin, she can't share the spotlight.
Matthew Good Band, well, basically, the band left, leaving Matthew Good by himself. |
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09-26-2003, 10:53 AM
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#9 | | Mraz-a-licious
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| Quote: Originally posted by Swany Justin's makes completely no sense to me. He was in NSync, NSync was at the top, he was the spotlight of NSync, whats the need of going solo. He was the only member of the group who actually wrote the songs, so if he wanted to change the direction, he could have done it himself.
Beyonce, was inevitable. She's the same as Justin, she can't share the spotlight. | Justin AND JC wrote songs for NSync. While they didn't have a lot of input, they had more than the others and had some over the record company. NSync was on hiatus for some time too, though. Besides, you just defended Gwen by saying that in a group/band you don't always have full credibility...maybe Justin wanted that. Jive marketed NSync as "Justin and 4 other guys" so you really can't put blame on him for being the spotlight, that's all due to marketing and whatnot. But like in any group, leaders emerge, it's natural. Also, you can't expect boybands like NSync and BSB to stay around forever. People grow up, mature, want to move on to bigger and better things, or just other things in general. If Justin hadn't gone solo when he did, he would have eventually anyway, so what's the big deal? Quote: | Gwen, I'd imagine being in a group/band, you don't have full credibility, and you dont write the songs yourself. So I can see it being greedy. | Gwen and Tony pretty much wrote all of No Doubts songs. There was input from the other members as well, but they were the main two...I don't see how credibility would be an issue there since she was pretty much half of the song writing team. |
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09-26-2003, 12:46 PM
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#10 | | World Champion
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| Thats what I mean Mandy, they WERE the group, and then they went solo. Thats just like saying FUCK the group, I need nobody else because I AM the group so if I go, the group dies but ILL still be successful
Thank you to everyone who commented. You all made great and valid points  |
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