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Old 04-19-2005, 07:25 PM   #21
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While Pope John Paul II took the stage with Bob Dylan and hobnobbed with the likes of Bono, his successor takes a different view of secular music.

In a 2000 book, 'The Spirit of the Liturgy," new Pope Benedict XVI extensively discusses the role of music in worship.

The former Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, known as a conservative, writes that pop music "is aimed at the phenomenon of the masses, is industrially produced, and ultimately has to be described as a cult of the banal."

Rock music fairs no better. It is the "expression of elemental passions, is another kind of "worship" altogether.'' At rock festivals, he notes, "it assumes a cultic character, a form of worship, in fact, in opposition to Christian worship."

The points were made to distinguish music used in Catholic rituals from other forms of expression. Ratzinger notes that "liturgical music must lift man's heart to Christ rather than plunge it into intoxicating sensuality."

Pope Benedict XVI is an accomplished pianist and reportedly has a deep affection for Beethoven.

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Old 04-19-2005, 07:28 PM   #22
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He's the last person that should mention the word "cult".
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Old 04-19-2005, 08:22 PM   #23
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I don't understand why they choose Popes that are so old already and might not be around to long. How old was John Paul II when he was elected?
Yeah, he was in his 50s. John Paul II was actually one of the youngest popes to be elected. Hince why I guess we're all so used to him. 1978, I believe was the year he was elected...am I right?
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Old 04-20-2005, 05:57 AM   #24
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Yeah, he was in his 50s. John Paul II was actually one of the youngest popes to be elected. Hince why I guess we're all so used to him. 1978, I believe was the year he was elected...am I right?
Yes your right Heather it was in 1978, i wasn't even born yet, but with older popes i guess they don't elect young onces because i guess it would be to hard and lots of presser to be the pope and have this very big burden to handle it. and with old once they have more controle to handle it.
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Old 04-20-2005, 10:00 AM   #25
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Yes it was 1978, I was born in 1978 and he came to Ireland in 1979, Pope Benedict XVI is going to carry on uniting the religions which is good, I saw him giving his first homily and mass as Pope today on tv. He did well.
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Old 04-20-2005, 10:10 AM   #26
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But you have to wonder, what if the other Cardinal had been elected Pope. He was African right? I was kinda hoping he might get just because it would be a big change and might influence some change here in America.
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Old 04-20-2005, 10:12 AM   #27
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I think it comes down to values, they were looking for someone who could keep and honour the values of the Catholic Church. I think thats why they went with this pope as he is very similar to John Paul II.
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Old 04-20-2005, 11:59 AM   #28
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In a 2000 book, 'The Spirit of the Liturgy," new Pope Benedict XVI extensively discusses the role of music in worship.
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Ratzinger notes that "liturgical music must lift man's heart to Christ rather than plunge it into intoxicating sensuality."
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The points were made to distinguish music used in Catholic rituals from other forms of expression.
So, in other words, Pop and Rock are inappropriate for mass. Nothing is worse than a band at mass trust me. I totally agree with him there.

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But you have to wonder, what if the other Cardinal had been elected Pope. He was African right? I was kinda hoping he might get just because it would be a big change and might influence some change here in America.
Was St. Victor (Pope Victor I) black? It is always mentioned that he was African and that was 1896(?) years ago.
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Old 04-20-2005, 12:11 PM   #29
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But you have to wonder, what if the other Cardinal had been elected Pope. He was African right? I was kinda hoping he might get just because it would be a big change and might influence some change here in America.
Yeah, that would be interesting. But this pope is Anti-American for different reasons, reasons which I personally dont get.. but whatever.
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For what reasons?
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