Lenghthen

If he's so concerned about helicopters rescuing those who are stranded, then why doesn't he get some together and help. I hate when people whine about shit when they're perfectly capable of helping out.

Lemons

Exactly. =)

ElectronicWorm

Ive been a member for over 4 years here.. I read people's opinion so after a while you know what people are like and what they stand for.To me youre known as a pro Bush person, because you scream that off every roof. Now dont come and tell me 'we didnt meet' and that should be a reason why I dont know what you stand for. If you cant handle my opinion then dont participate in a forum. I dont spreak for you at all, Im just stating my opinion from what Ive read.

You are so blind for reality I think no one is good enough for you to prove you wrong. Its carrying water to the sea .

Lemons

Haha, screaming, thats cute. Well, just because I quickly reply doesn't mean Im "screaming". And If by screaming, you mean, replying with facts, then yes, I am screaming. I dont scream at a computer screen, and I wont do it now. But alteast its nice to know you can "hear me" over the internet.

Okay, Im blind, lets leave it at that. I just would like to see everything you say be backed up by what you mean. I sent you a link, and you didn't even click it. If im so blind, and closed minded, doesn't mean you have to be either. And honestly, I feel the same way about you. I think you're blind, and no one is good enough to tell you otherwise. So now we're even.

Duffyboy

Well done Michael Moore. Every single thing I was about to post and you took the words out of my mouth!

War & Iraq and now the hurricane's problems. Both results of money badly spent.

Lemons

Click It

Wow. Not one of you "open minded" folks have yet to click that. Geez, If you were scared of the truth so much, I would have posted this earlier.

Anyone?

ManSlippers

See, but George, you think YOU are the only one with facts. And you're not. You just don't want to admit that Bush has done wrong. Yes I saw Fahrenheit, and I don't blame him for making the documentary. It takes balls to reveal truths behind a dishonest administration. And this goes around in circles. If that letter was written by anyone else, you wouldn't be saying all of this and you wouldn't have anything to debate against at all. Everything in that letter is basically fact. Unfortunately people will always say their side is fact and it keeps going around in circles.

Bottom line: Bush took his sweet little time and people are starting to realize it now.

I've been to that site, and nothing interests me about it. It's always going to be a HE'S LYING! NO, HE'S LYING!

Lemons

But the problem is, I didn't say im the only one with the facts. I just said the page that I provided has a lot of facts and proves Moore wrong.

Because he hasn't! Is a hurricane his fault? Was Hurricane Andrew Clinton's fault? No. Natural Disasters are no ones fault. Why is that so hard to understand?

Did you click the link, I recommend you click and read it a little. Maybe Moore is being dishonest, and hes not factual? Yes, in a world like this, anything can happen.


Actually, I could debate with it, but the fact that Micheal Moore said it, I highly doubt and question, because almost everything that comes out of his mouth is slander.

Sounds like something Moore would say, doesn't it?

Lemons

Click the links, they're supported with actual facts proven from many sources. Everything he mention in his movie is all responded to. Just click it and see, if you dont want to go around in circles, that is.

Lemons

Well, if no one is brave enough to click them, I'll just post them.

By Dave Kopel:
Early in this segment, Moore states that “only one” member of Congress has a child in Iraq. The action of the segment consists of Moore accosting Congressmen to try to convince them to have their children enlist in the military. At the end, Moore declares, “Not a single member of Congress wanted to sacrifice their child for the war in Iraq.”



Moore’s conclusion is technically true, but duplicitous. Of course no-one would want to “sacrifice” his child in any way. But the fact is, Moore's opening ("only one") and his conclusion ("not a single member") are both incorrect. Sergeant Brooks Johnson, the son of South Dakota Democratic Senator Tim Johnson, serves in the 101st Airborne Division and fought in Iraq in 2003. The son of California Republican Representative Duncan Hunter quit his job after September 11, and enlisted in the Marines; his artillery unit was deployed in the heart of insurgent territory in February 2004. Delaware Senator Joseph Biden's son Beau is on active duty; although Beau Biden has no control over he is deployed, he has not been sent to Iraq, and therefore does not "count" for Moore's purposes.



How about Cabinet members? Fahrenheit never raises the issue, because the answer would not fit Moore’s thesis. Attorney General John Ashcroft’s son is on active duty. (Fahrenheit Fact.)



The editing of the Congressional scenes borders on the fraudulent:

….Representative Kennedy (R-MN), one of the lawmakers accosted in Fahrenheit 9/11, was censored by Michael Moore.
According to the Star Tribune, Kennedy, when asked if he would be willing to send his son to Iraq, responded by stating that he had a nephew who was en-route to Afghanistan. He went on to inform Moore that his son was thinking about a career in the navy and that two of his nephews had already served in the armed forces. Kennedy’s side of the conversation, however, was cut from the film, leaving him looking bewildered and defensive.

What was Michael’s excuse for trimming the key segment? Kennedy’s remarks didn’t help his thesis: “He mentioned that he had a nephew that was going over to Afghanistan,” Moore recounted. “So then I said ‘No, no, that’s not our job here today. We want you to send your child to Iraq. Not a nephew.’”

Kennedy lambasted Moore as a “master of the misleading” after viewing the interview in question.