Michael Jackson Found NOT GUILTY - Page 4 - Eternal Allegiance

ManSlippers · 06-14-2005, 12:45 PM

First, Emma, how can you even say he SHOULD have been charged? You don't know if he gave them drinks. You weren't there, so you can't say he SHOULD have been charged for those as if it's fact, because none of us know. Why do none of us know? THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE PROVING HE DID, and until there is, he should be looked upon as innocent UNTIL PROVEN guilty. What the fuck has happened to this country when people can't even respect that statement anymore? (Not directing at Emma cause she doesn't live in the U.S. lol)

Also, how dare you call his fans crazy. I cried when the verdict was read, that make me crazy? I think it is historic as well, so I suppose I'm as wacko as Jacko, eh? I'm sure you'd feel the same if one of your favorite artists was legendary and on trial for something you know in your heart didn't happen, and you wouldn't want people judging them, even AFTER they've been found NOT GUILTY. You need to learn to respect the positions from both sides before you comment.

Duffyboy · 06-14-2005, 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by Kizzie
First, Emma, how can you even say he SHOULD have been charged? You don't know if he gave them drinks. You weren't there, so you can't say he SHOULD have been charged for those as if it's fact, because none of us know. Why do none of us know? THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE PROVING HE DID, and until there is, he should be looked upon as innocent UNTIL PROVEN guilty. What the fuck has happened to this country when people can't even respect that statement anymore? (Not directing at Emma cause she doesn't live in the U.S. lol)

Also, how dare you call his fans crazy. I cried when the verdict was read, that make me crazy? I think it is historic as well, so I suppose I'm as wacko as Jacko, eh? I'm sure you'd feel the same if one of your favorite artists was legendary and on trial for something you know in your heart didn't happen, and you wouldn't want people judging them, even AFTER they've been found NOT GUILTY. You need to learn to respect the positions from both sides before you comment.

I was about to make EXACTLY the same statement! Thanks for the facts Kizzie!

CrAZyBeAuTiFuL4 · 06-14-2005, 01:29 PM

General statement: Some people truly feel in their heart that he DID do what he was accused of (or at least part of it)..so it works both ways. Tons of people are disgusted at the outcome of this trial and tons are thrilled. And while I don't think ALL of his fans are crazy or whatnot, I do think too many of them let their love for an artist determine how they think of him. Some think he can do no wrong simply because of who he is and that's BS...he's as much capable of doing something wrong as any of us are.

As for him being tried again...I think I heard somewhere that the reason why there were 10 different charges is that the judge wanted to make it so that this case couldn't be drug on and he couldn't be charged on some random thing...so I think they covered all their bases in this one? I'm not sure, just something I heard while watching TV...

Duffyboy · 06-14-2005, 01:37 PM

It's such a pity when people despise the innocent for being innocent though. It really is.

One such a case I remember was Louise Woodward which was USA VS Britain all the way. The fact she was innocent had nothing to do with it.

Shameful some of these high profile trilas. Thankfully the jury got it spot on with the verdict. Well done.

PapRoach123 · 06-14-2005, 04:05 PM

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Originally posted by ForeverInLoveWithJus
Would any of you that believe he is so innocent allow your child to stay at Neverland and in his bed with him?

No, and that's a sad thing. Lets just assume that the man is completely innocent as the verdict reads, just look at what this thing has done to the man. A man with a good heart and good intentions would be destroyed by all the shit that he had to go through because of these accusations. If you look back on his career and see what he stood for and what he fought for in this world, how have "the people", the ones he did it all for, how have they let him down...

Assuming he is completely innocent, I cannot imagine how he could still love this world as much as he did - and by god if only half of the planet's population would love it as much as he did, this world would be such a better place - what would happen if everything you believed in for so long would seem to fall apart in front of your very eyes, questioning your own sanity in terms of faith that may have been nothing but a deception...

But aside from all that, it seriously surpised me Emma, to see you respond this way, as I recall it was you (and I think Allie too) who made the following statement in the Saddam Hussein thread: "Innocent until proven guilty" -- Jackson wasn't proven guilty.

Angel_Eyes · 06-14-2005, 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by CrAZyBeAuTiFuL4

If Joe Schmo from CityName, Iowa were THAT into children and spent THAT much time with kids...no DOUBT people would accuse him of things. And sadly, he would probably be convicted...but here you have a beyond wealthy king of pop and it's perfectly acceptable for him to be around children all the time.

That's exactly what I was thinking.

YesJess · 06-14-2005, 05:22 PM

I have to agree with Allie on this one.

I also have to agree with some of the Jury members. He may not have done this to THIS kid but I believe he has before. Just not to this kid. So, he can't be convicted. He isn't innocent he's just not guilty.

Leonida · 06-14-2005, 05:34 PM

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Originally posted by ForeverInLoveWithJus

Would any of you that believe he is so innocent allow your child to stay at Neverland and in his bed with him?

If I was a parent, I wouldn't allow my child to stay in anyone's bed but my own. Thats just common sense. So wether he was guilty or innocent no I wouldnt and I believe most parents would think the same way. So that comment is just irrelevant, but whatever.

Nanny · 06-14-2005, 07:23 PM

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Originally posted by ForeverInLoveWithJus
Would any of you that believe he is so innocent allow your child to stay at Neverland and in his bed with him?

Believing that he did not commit the crimes he was accused of is not the same as saying it's okay for children to sleep in his bed. But I wouldn't expect you to share the same view.

CrAZyBeAuTiFuL4 · 06-14-2005, 07:36 PM

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Originally posted by Stinger

But aside from all that, it seriously surpised me Emma, to see you respond this way, as I recall it was you (and I think Allie too) who made the following statement in the Saddam Hussein thread: "Innocent until proven guilty" -- Jackson wasn't proven guilty.

If I did say that about Saddam...I think what I was trying to say came out wrong or you misread what I was saying...