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09-07-2005, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Swany I would just like to see it all come to a conclusion which satisfies both groups so that people would just shut up about it and get on with their lives. | Same here, but unfortunately, both sides are so very different, anything like that wont happen. You cant do anything without pissing off the opposite side. |
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09-07-2005, 09:17 PM
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#12 | | June 27th
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| Well, that's the stupid part. People should just mind their own damn business. But I suppose while there's any sort of media around, that will never happen. |
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09-08-2005, 03:25 AM
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#13 | | Awaiting Email Confirmation
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| I still see it as religious people trying to make non religious people live by the rules the religious people think is right. If you believe in a god: fine, if you dont: fine. But dont hold people down in living their life by saying what they cant and cannot do because your religion says so. Whats wrong with 2 man or 2 woman getting married? Its not like your life will be influenced by it. Or you are so against it that you feel like you should care about other people 24/7 . Well, the latter is your own choice! I live among married gay people for some years now and it didnt effect me in any way. But maybe thats because im open for it. Why should I stick my nose in their lives, when I dont have anything to there? |
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09-08-2005, 07:43 AM
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#14 | | weeeee
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| Schwarzenegger to Veto Gay Marriage Bill
SACRAMENTO, Calif. - Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said he would veto a bill to legalize same-sex marriage "out of respect for the will of the people," drawing heated criticism from gay rights supporters and cheers from conservative groups.
The bill, narrowly passed by lawmakers in the past week, would make California the first state to legalize same-sex marriage through its legislature. In Massachusetts, recognition of gay marriages came through a court ruling.
But Schwarzenegger said Wednesday the legislation would conflict with the intent of voters when they approved an initiative five years ago that prevents California from recognizing same-sex marriages performed in other states or countries.
"We cannot have a system where the people vote and the Legislature derails that vote," the governor's press secretary, Margita Thompson, said in a statement.
Conservatives hailed the announcement.
"I'm encouraged that the governor is going to stop the runaway Legislature, and he's going to represent the people," said Karen England of the Capitol Resource Institute, a Sacramento group that lobbied against the bill.
But gay rights advocates said the Republican governor had betrayed the bipartisan ideals that helped get him elected in the 2003 recall election.
"Clearly he's pandering to an extreme right wing, which was not how he got elected," said Geoff Kors, executive director of Equality California, one of the bill's sponsors. "He got elected with record numbers of lesbian and gay voters who had not previously voted for a Republican, and he sold us out."
The governor has until Oct. 9 to issue the veto. A veto override in California requires a two-thirds vote in both the Assembly and Senate. The Assembly approved the bill 41-35, while the Senate voted 21-15.
Despite his promise to veto the bill, Schwarzenegger still believes "gay couples are entitled to full protection under the law and should not be discriminated against based upon their relationship," Thompson's statement said. "He is proud that California provides the most rigorous protections in the nation for domestic partners."
California already gives same-sex couples many of the rights and duties of marriage if they register with the state as domestic partners.
Also Wednesday, in Massachusetts, a proposed ballot initiative that would ban same-sex marriages passed a major hurdle. The state attorney general ruled the initiative would be permitted under a section of the Massachusetts Constitution allowing voters to overturn court decisions.
The decision clears the way for conservative groups to begin gathering signatures and lobbying lawmakers in hopes of putting the issue before voters in 2008.
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09-08-2005, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Poison Paradise I still see it as religious people trying to make non religious people live by the rules the religious people think is right. If you believe in a god: fine, if you dont: fine. But dont hold people down in living their life by saying what they cant and cannot do because your religion says so. Whats wrong with 2 man or 2 woman getting married? Its not like your life will be influenced by it. Or you are so against it that you feel like you should care about other people 24/7 . Well, the latter is your own choice! I live among married gay people for some years now and it didnt effect me in any way. But maybe thats because im open for it. Why should I stick my nose in their lives, when I dont have anything to there? | Unfortunately they have to stick their noses in someone's elses business instead of concentrating on their own damn lives. Pathetic much? YES. |
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09-08-2005, 08:52 AM
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#16 | | World Champion
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| Fine. I should kill myself because I can never have the same rights as anyone else here because nobody likes the person I am. Appreciate it, land of the fuckin free. |
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09-08-2005, 11:39 AM
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#17 | | SAN JOSE STATE!!!!!
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| I'm kind of really happy my girlfriend lives in Canada... that and Vermont is really close. |
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09-08-2005, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by WatchMe Unfortunately they have to stick their noses in someone's elses business instead of concentrating on their own damn lives. Pathetic much? YES. | Indeed. I was always thought to first look at myself before looking at others. Guess thats not happening everywhere Quote: |
Originally Posted by strongerbritters Fine. I should kill myself because I can never have the same rights as anyone else here because nobody likes the person I am. Appreciate it, land of the fuckin free. | I dont think you should kill yourself! If people dont wanna respect you for who you are then fuck them! They're not even worth talking about actually.. its redicilous. They're discrimination gay people and just because they believe its wrong, doesnt mean in reality it is. Im sorry to hear you have to live in these situations where politics are still controlled by religion. |
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09-08-2005, 12:03 PM
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#19 | | World Champion
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Originally Posted by Poison Paradise I dont think you should kill yourself! If people dont wanna respect you for who you are then fuck them! They're not even worth talking about actually.. its redicilous. They're discrimination gay people and just because they believe its wrong, doesnt mean in reality it is. Im sorry to hear you have to live in these situations where politics are still controlled by religion. | I wouldn't ever do that to myself, but I do think it's F'd up that people can't mind their business. This country needs a reality check. Maybe if Bush ended up like Kennedy, society would be better off for the next two years... |
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09-08-2005, 12:25 PM
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#20 | | June 27th
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Originally Posted by WatchMe SACRAMENTO, Calif. - Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said he would veto a bill to legalize same-sex marriage "out of respect for the will of the people," drawing heated criticism from gay rights supporters and cheers from conservative groups. | So, gays aren't people? What am I, then? An alien? |
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