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11-04-2004, 09:15 AM
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#21 | | Finlay Benoit Carlito
Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A
Posts: 2,079
| Quote: Originally posted by CrAZyBeAuTiFuL4 *nods*
Ignore information that proves you wrong...so predictible | I posted it.
Dunno how it's not there.
I said that survey was done in 1991 and is now irrelevant.
Right now it's costing us a s***load money to keep the likes of Ian Brady, Sutcliffe, Huntley and Rose West in jail when executing them will FAR easier and cheaper.
So in fact YOU are again wrong.
Sorry. *hugs*
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11-04-2004, 09:25 AM
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#22 | | Alien Elf With Clogs
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 6,346
| Quote: Originally posted by CrAZyBeAuTiFuL4 If he's a Christian he will go to hell...what if he's not? | This statement shows that you do not know about Christianity. If you are a Christian, you will go to Heaven when you die, ALWAYS. |
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11-04-2004, 09:38 AM
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#23 | | Mraz-a-licious
Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Iowa City @ U of I
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| What was written on that page was done in 1998. The first statement I posted was from 1995 and the secon from 1997. Not much has changed regarding costs of capital punishment over the years. A new report released by the Tennessee Comptroller of the Treasury recommended changes to the stateŐs costly death penalty and called into question its effectiveness in preventing crime. The Office of Research noted that it lacked sufficient data to accurately account for the total cost of capital trials, stating that because cost and time records were not maintained, the Office of Research was unable to determine the total, comprehensive cost of the death penalty in Tennessee." Although noting that, "no reliable data exists concerning the cost of prosecution or defense of first-degree murder cases in Tennessee," the report concluded that capital murder trials are longer and more expensive at every step compared to other murder trials. In fact, the available data indicated that in capital trials, taxpayers pay half again as much as murder cases in which prosecutors seek prison terms rather than the death penalty. Findings in the report include the following:
* Death penalty trials cost an average of 48% more than the average cost of trials in which prosecutors seek life imprisonment.
* Tennessee District Attorneys General are not consistent in their pursuit of the death penalty.
* Surveys and interviews of district attorneys indicate that some prosecutors "use the death penalty as a 'bargaining chip' to secure plea bargains for lesser sentences."
* Previous research provides no clear indication whether the death penalty acts as a method of crime prevention.
* The Tennessee Court of Criminal Appeals reversed 29 percent of capital cases on direct appeal.
* Although any traumatic trial may cause stress and pain for jurors, the victims' family, and the defendant's family, the pressure may be at its peak during death penalty trials.
(July 2004) http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/arti...ancial%20facts
That's just one example from the above page, there are many more there. Quote: Originally posted by FormerlyLBFG
This statement shows that you do not know about Christianity. If you are a Christian, you will go to Heaven when you die, ALWAYS. | I don't know tons about Christianity and I don't pretend to (sorry for a misinterpretation), but I was under the impression that if you were a good Christian and followed the "rules" that you would go to heaven and if not you went to hell. Either way, if Scott Peterson does not believe in heaven or hell [which I don't know if he does, I was making a hypothetical question], it's unfair for people to say he will go to one place or the other when he doesn't believe the same they do.
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11-04-2004, 10:18 AM
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#24 | | SAN JOSE STATE!!!!!
Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Jose, CA
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| You're a Christian if you believe in Jesus Christ as your savior. The end. |
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11-04-2004, 11:24 AM
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#25 | | Alien Elf With Clogs
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 6,346
| Quote: Originally posted by CrAZyBeAuTiFuL4
I don't know tons about Christianity and I don't pretend to (sorry for a misinterpretation), but I was under the impression that if you were a good Christian and followed the "rules" that you would go to heaven and if not you went to hell. Either way, if Scott Peterson does not believe in heaven or hell [which I don't know if he does, I was making a hypothetical question], it's unfair for people to say he will go to one place or the other when he doesn't believe the same they do. | Yeah, that is a misconception you had.  According to the Bible, if you are indeed a Christian, you will go to Heaven, regardless of what you did or did not do. However, you are still encouraged to lead a good and virtuous life as you will be judged for any evil you did, still (and also you are judged for the good). However, there are many people who think they are Christian who aren't or who claim to be so but aren't. Those will indeed go to hell.
The ones who really are Christians go to Heaven. |
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11-04-2004, 12:06 PM
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#26 | | World Champion
Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: nWo City
Posts: 10,827
| Quote: Originally posted by FormerlyLBFG Yeah, that is a misconception you had. According to the Bible, if you are indeed a Christian, you will go to Heaven, regardless of what you did or did not do. However, you are still encouraged to lead a good and virtuous life as you will be judged for any evil you did, still (and also you are judged for the good). However, there are many people who think they are Christian who aren't or who claim to be so but aren't. Those will indeed go to hell.
The ones who really are Christians go to Heaven. | Kind of like the same with the Islam. You have 'normal' Muslims, and then you have Bin Ladens. |
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11-04-2004, 12:22 PM
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#27 | | Scrum-Tiddly-Umptious
Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The STL
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| Quote: Originally posted by Possum ^ In hell, you pay a faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar worse punishment than jail. You burn in hell for all eternity for killing someone. Scott Peterson is truley evil. The way he crys for his wife.. who He killed.. and blames it on everyone but himself.. ugh.. people like him disgust me.. | We don't KNOW for a fact that he killed her. Its a speculation at this point, innocent until proven guilty mate.
And even if he did kill her he could still go to heaven ya know.
Wow, Allie I never knew that it cost more to exucute people than house them in jail. Yet another reason to be pro life. People lead by example. What kind of example is it to kill someone for killing? |
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11-04-2004, 12:30 PM
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#28 | | World Champion
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 3,606
| Quote: Originally posted by RaInBoW_bRiTe
And even if he did kill her he could still go to heaven ya know. | LMAO!! Re-read your bible my dear. Thou Shalt not kill. |
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11-04-2004, 12:35 PM
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#29 | | Scrum-Tiddly-Umptious
Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The STL
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| Reread it and come to the part where Jesus tells the murderer on the cross that he will see him in Heaven on that same day.
Then read to where it says Jesus died for our sins, and all we must do is believe in Him and our sins will be washed away.
Read some more to where it says only one sin is unforgivable.
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11-04-2004, 12:40 PM
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#30 | | weeeee
Join Date: Oct 2001
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