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12-16-2004, 12:39 PM
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#131 | | World Champion
Join Date: May 2001 Location: Vienna
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| Quote: Originally posted by Duffyboy 2004 Dids. Where baby killing and such evil murder is worthy of capital punishment. | And so why has nothing changed since 1004? Or since the year 4? Or since the year 104 bc? Oh, stupid question. Humans never learn. It is not worthy. Listen, I'm pretty sure that if someone killed my daughter and unborn grandchild I would want to personally kill them with my two hands. But I don't have the RIGHT to do that. I don't have the right and I am just NOT ALLOWED to do that. Two wrongs do NOT equal a right. That's like the most trivial statement in the world. But it's just true. Quote: Originally posted by Duffyboy But he can also save taxpayers money and FRY! | Putting people to death costs as well. And even if putting him into jail ends up being more expensive, I'll pay the few extra cents to give someone the CORRECT punishment. Quote: Originally posted by Duffyboy The why did he feel he had the right to kill her? If he defies this "moral law" than so should we. Uphold the scales of justice. | He had absolutely no right to kill her. But we'll stoop down to his level if we do the same with him. And eye for an eye.. yeah right. Who do we think we are? Above the law? Oh please. We just don't have the right. |
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12-16-2004, 12:45 PM
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#132 | | Woot
Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: My House
Posts: 1,779
| the death penalty is stupid and so is wanting his execution to be televised. I feel ashamed to live in a place where things like that can happen  |
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12-16-2004, 12:52 PM
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#133 | | Mraz-a-licious
Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Iowa City @ U of I
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| Quote: Originally posted by Duffyboy Well, THREE kinds of sick person actually.
1) The victims family who want to see poetic justice done. | Not every family member of victims want to actually SEE someone be killed...that's a huge assumption on your part. Yes, some of them may want Scott to get the death penalty but wether or not they actually want to SEE him be killed is something you know nothing about. Quote:
2) The people of the world so that a message can be sent. | It's been researched so many times and the Death Penalty is NOT a deterrent for crime and therefore, there's no need to show it on TV as it will not stop someone from committing a crime. The time that laspes between the time the crime is committed and the time the actual execution takes place, if it even takes place at all, is way to great and people don't make the connection of "ohhh...if I kill this person I will get the death penalty." Not to mention the fact that the Death Penalty is not a 100% guarantee in any case. Quote: | 3) The people who wanna see their taxpayers money no longer wasted, funding baby killers to stay in jail | As I have already said and shown evidence for, executing someone costs the taxpayers more than keeping them in jail for life. |
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12-16-2004, 01:24 PM
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#134 | | World Champion
Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: nWo City
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| Quote: Originally posted by Duffyboy The why did he feel he had the right to kill her? If he defies this "moral law" than so should we. Uphold the scales of justice. | You can't fight fire with fire, everybody knows that. You're punishing him for something you're about to do yourself. Justice you say? Hypocrisy is more like it.
Why is your satisfaction to see a man die so great? You don't even know this moron. He's just another pinhead on the other side of the planet you heard people speak of, and you're already jumping for joy to get the oppertunity to see him die.
Killing him does not bring his wife back. There is no justice in fullfilling your needs to seek revenge. Especially not when you're just a number who's watching him on TV. You act like he just killed your mom, heh.
What kind of message do you think his execution brings forth to other baby killers? That omg if I kill a baby they will hang me? Oh I'm shaking now! They don't give a shit about life, man. These people are insane. Insanity also includes the ability to commit suicide without breaking a sweat. Why do you think Hitler killed himself? To save us tax money?
If anything, this death penalty crap is encouraging these freaks. They don't fear death. They look forward to it.  |
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12-16-2004, 02:18 PM
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#135 | | Undergrad Senior
Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Upstate NY
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| I find it strange that we live in a country where it is considered a popular sport to go out and shoot innocent animals for fun and no one cares, but to kill another living creature who obviously deserves it (ie. Mister Peterson...) people are all up in arms.... I know it's different, but there's still something strange about it... |
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12-16-2004, 02:24 PM
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#136 | | Mraz-a-licious
Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Iowa City @ U of I
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| Quote: Originally posted by Bethy I find it strange that we live in a country where it is considered a popular sport to go out and shoot innocent animals for fun and no one cares, but to kill another living creature who obviously deserves it (ie. Mister Peterson...) people are all up in arms.... I know it's different, but there's still something strange about it... | You seem to be forgetting that no everyone is for hunting innocent animals. I for one, am not for it and I also don't think Mr. Peterson should be killed either. However, there is a difference in the two situations you've just described. For one, many people who do hunt also use what they kill for food and so, it's not really going to waste; and at times hunting say, deer for instance, is necessary because otherwise they would become too populated and then it would be dangerous for them because there would be too many of them to live in one place and then we'd have deer running wild all over the streets and trust me, that's NOT a good thing. |
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12-16-2004, 02:33 PM
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#137 | | Undergrad Senior
Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Upstate NY
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| I know they're different & of course hunting to survive makes sense, I'm just saying there are people out there who will kill animals just for the sake of it and think nothing of what the animal is feeling. I'm not for hunting either, I'm just saying it's just funny how we have such different views on the 2 topics when really they are both about killing... I kind of confused myself  |
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12-16-2004, 03:30 PM
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#138 | | Mraz-a-licious
Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Iowa City @ U of I
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| Quote: Originally posted by Bethy I know they're different & of course hunting to survive makes sense, I'm just saying there are people out there who will kill animals just for the sake of it and think nothing of what the animal is feeling. I'm not for hunting either, I'm just saying it's just funny how we have such different views on the 2 topics when really they are both about killing... I kind of confused myself | I'm confused too...yes, people do hunt just for the hell of it. But those who hunt for the hell of it might be those who are for the death penatly and those against hunting mught be those against the death penalty? It just seemed to me like you were trying to make the two viewpoints of these topics as being shared by everyone in the coutnry, and I was just pointing out that they're not. Wow...yeah, I'm really confused! LMAO! Sorry! |
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12-16-2004, 03:30 PM
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#139 | | Woot
Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: My House
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| Quote: Originally posted by Bethy I find it strange that we live in a country where it is considered a popular sport to go out and shoot innocent animals for fun and no one cares, but to kill another living creature who obviously deserves it (ie. Mister Peterson...) people are all up in arms.... I know it's different, but there's still something strange about it... | I don't like the killing of animals either, in fact thats why I became a vegitarian and I dont wear anything made with animals. I am very much into animal rights.
I still dont see how the death openalty is justified, killing someone (in petersons case) who may or may not have killed someone. In anyones case why kill someone because tehy killed someone we are doing the same thing tbhey did. and if the person getting executed for killing someoneis going to hell then so are the people whohave approved/did the execution. |
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12-16-2004, 03:36 PM
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#140 | | Mraz-a-licious
Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Iowa City @ U of I
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| Quote: Originally posted by Angel_Eyes
I still dont see how the death openalty is justified, killing someone (in petersons case) who may or may not have killed someone. In anyones case why kill someone because tehy killed someone we are doing the same thing tbhey did. and if the person getting executed for killing someoneis going to hell then so are the people whohave approved/did the execution. | I agree. By killing him we're doing what we're condeming him for and that's...wrong, no matter how you look at it I think. Also, the evidence throws me off. Of course I think he did it, but without any hard evidence...I don't see how he can be convicted. |
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