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12-15-2004, 07:36 PM
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#121 | | World Champion
Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: nWo City
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| Quote: Originally posted by Duffyboy Who is Scott Patterson to say that his wife dies and her remaining family members behind suffer. Exactly. It's upholding the scales of justice in this case. | I thought that the concept of putting a dude like that in prison is to prevent him from doing it again.
Therefore, the argument "so he will suffer" said by a person who is against the death penalty... that just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Why is it bad to kill him, but at the same time good to let him suffer?
What does the concept of 'revenge' mean? Why is it so important for humans to pursue it? Isn't justice in your context just a politically correct way to say revenge? There seems to be an animal in all of us. All we seem to need is a good reason to let it out, and inflict wrath upon another human being to satisfy some dark feeling inside of us. To have ended a man's life, and to feel good about it...
You wonder why he's smiling? He agrees with your feelings, he is FOR the death penalty himself, is he not? He just went and made you feel what he felt when he killed his wife. And he made you want to take the same action, and most of all, he made you feel good about it.
In his mind, he won. Mindgames. People like him love mindgames. |
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12-15-2004, 08:01 PM
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#122 | | Scrum-Tiddly-Umptious
Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The STL
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| Quote: Originally posted by LiL Fizzy If he is guilty, I hope he gets the death penalty. Why should Americans waste our tax money paying for a murder to live his life comfortably in a prison? I think not. | lmao. Have you ever been to a maximum security prison? Watch the movie American History X, and it will give you a TINY TAME glance of life in prison. Contrary to what death penalty activists want to tell you, life in prison is not 'comfortable'. Unless watching your back to make sure you aren't raped, mutilated, or killed everyday is, you know your idea of comfortable. Plus the fact that as Allie said, its cheaper to keep criminals alive than kill them .This is due to court costs of course. All those appeals add up.
Plus, by the way, us killing him, makes us no better than him. |
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12-15-2004, 08:13 PM
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#123 | | World Champion
Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: nWo City
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| Quote: Originally posted by RaInBoW_bRiTe lmao. Have you ever been to a maximum security prison? Watch the movie American History X, and it will give you a TINY TAME glance of life in prison. | Not every prison is like that though. Outstanding movie, btw. Also a good example: the people running the prison, are just as bad as the ones behind the bars. The only difference is they're not. |
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12-15-2004, 08:52 PM
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#124 | | Scrum-Tiddly-Umptious
Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The STL
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| ^Yes, not every prison is as bad as that one, but most are not the cushy places people make them out to be. Maybe minimum security prisons are, but for someone who would be getting life without parole, especailly in a high profile case like this one, they wouldn't send him to a cushy prison because of the backlash that would earn.
And yeah, I saw the Shawshank Redemption too.  So most prisons are run pretty corruptly. And Sleepers. Horrible horrible book. |
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12-15-2004, 09:29 PM
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#125 | | Smooth Criminal
Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ON HIATUS
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| Keep in mind people that these are movies that people made, not actual life. Perhaps it's a reflection of reality, perhaps not.
Scott Peterson would have been seperated from other inmates either way because otherwise, he would have been in danger. There are quotes from the prisons saying he would never make it because he's a "baby killer". As it is, he'll be on death row at San Quentin (I think that's how it's spelled) and away from the inmates anyway. |
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12-16-2004, 09:23 AM
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#126 | | Woot
Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: My House
Posts: 1,779
| I personally don't think he's guilty, and I have real reasons to think that it's just a feeling so of course I could be wrong.
it's so stupid that he gets the death penalty without anyone knowing if he really did kill her there is no cold hard evidence so if he is in fact innocent he's being killed for nothing.
I don't beieve in the death penalty either why kill someone who killed someone else? how much sense does that make? It isn't anyones right or decision to decide who dies?
and duffyboy, what kind of sick person would want to see the execution live on television? thats just beyond sick!
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12-16-2004, 09:38 AM
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#127 | | Scrum-Tiddly-Umptious
Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The STL
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| Quote: Originally posted by Wdnesday Keep in mind people that these are movies that people made, not actual life. Perhaps it's a reflection of reality, perhaps not.
Scott Peterson would have been seperated from other inmates either way because otherwise, he would have been in danger. There are quotes from the prisons saying he would never make it because he's a "baby killer". As it is, he'll be on death row at San Quentin (I think that's how it's spelled) and away from the inmates anyway. | Yeah I know that those are movies, but I've known a few people who've been in prison and they've told me a bit about it...doesn't sound like a fun place...
And Yeah Scott would never make it in prison. I know for certain inmates protection they have to be kept in solitary confinement(?). People like child molesters and such that the other prisoners see as dirt, Jeffrey Dahmer was killed in prison by a group of guys. |
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12-16-2004, 11:58 AM
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#128 | | Finlay Benoit Carlito
Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A
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| Quote: Originally posted by Angel_Eyes Duffyboy, what kind of sick person would want to see the execution live on television? thats just beyond sick! | Well, THREE kinds of sick person actually.
1) The victims family who want to see poetic justice done.
2) The people of the world so that a message can be sent.
3) The people who wanna see their taxpayers money no longer wasted, funding baby killers to stay in jail |
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12-16-2004, 12:02 PM
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#129 | | World Champion
Join Date: May 2001 Location: Vienna
Posts: 6,279
| I think it's pretty horrible that he'll be getting the death penalty. What year are we in? ...
He should suffer a hard life in prison. Doesn't matter what he did, no human being has the right to kill another. |
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12-16-2004, 12:06 PM
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#130 | | Finlay Benoit Carlito
Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A
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| Quote: Originally posted by dids I think it's pretty horrible that he'll be getting the death penalty. What year are we in? ... | 2004 Dids. Where baby killing and such evil murder is worthy of capital punishment. Quote: |
He should suffer a hard life in prison.
| But he can also save taxpayers money and FRY! Quote: |
Doesn't matter what he did, no human being has the right to kill another.
| The why did he feel he had the right to kill her? If he defies this "moral law" than so should we. Uphold the scales of justice. |
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