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Old 01-15-2004, 06:11 PM   #71
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Well, Britneyslave, the disadvantages are that there are many people who claim to follow this or that religion who really give people in those religions bad names, yet the ones giving them the bad names typically aren't even following the own followings in their own religion and, in fact, many times aren't even that religion at all (but just say that they are).

It's just like many people think they are a certain religion just because their parents were. NO--that does NOT make you a follower of that religion! To follow a religion means that YOU personally must follow it. What your parents did or follow is what your parents did or follow. If you don't believe something, then you are not a follower of that religion, plain and simple. You are not of a religion simply because your parents were, in other words. This misconception is widespread and annoying.

You could have parents who followed the Jewish faith and you yourself be Christian. You could have parents who followed the Christian religion and you yourself be athiest. ....it all depends on YOU!

Also, there are lots of misled individuals who think they are a follower of this or that religion simply because a certain leader takes them under his wing and "teaches" them things about that religion, yet actually is teaching lies about it and teaching them something else entirely, but they are then deceived into thinking they are a follower of <insert religion here> when, in fact, they are followers of someone with an alterior motive.

What's bad about religion isn't religion, per-se, but is all of the posers, if you will.
I totally agree with you! That's why you have to ask God for guidance. If you wish to be guided, you will.

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Old 01-15-2004, 06:43 PM   #72
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It hasn't even been proven that Osama Bin Laden did the 9/11 attacks
omg i cant believe anyone would ever say that... :/ how are you denying that when he himself claimed authority for that??im not taking sides or anything but thats just....wrong... i dont even know how to say it.. *walks away from thread shaking his head*

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Old 01-16-2004, 11:08 AM   #73
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Well according to him Osama bin laden is probably jewish or something as well, i cant belive what you said about those terrorists not being Muslims, LOL that really make you look ignorant and blind and makes me really lose interest in you and lose all the respect i used to have (yes i had one)
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Old 01-16-2004, 02:13 PM   #74
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omg i cant believe anyone would ever say that... :/ how are you denying that when he himself claimed authority for that??im not taking sides or anything but thats just....wrong... i dont even know how to say it.. *walks away from thread shaking his head*

Umm...if i remember, what Osama Bin Laden said was, "I didn't commit the acts of 9/11, but i'm glad somebody did".

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Well according to him Osama bin laden is probably jewish or something as well, i cant belive what you said about those terrorists not being Muslims, LOL that really make you look ignorant and blind and makes me really lose interest in you and lose all the respect i used to have (yes i had one)

ummm.....like i care about having your respect, wow. And yeah, i've never seen such low immaturity level from anyone. And according to you, all Muslims are terrorists and Islam teaches Muslims to terrorize. I have such pity for you.

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Old 01-16-2004, 05:34 PM   #75
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[quote]Originally posted by Britneyslave
[b]Umm...if i remember, what Osama Bin Laden said was, "I didn't commit the acts of 9/11, but i'm glad somebody did".[quote]

9/11 = Al Qauda attack. Bin Laden = Head of Al Qauda. you do the math.
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Old 01-16-2004, 05:43 PM   #76
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IM NOT TAKING SIDES
>>> RoM - I think you are being too sarcastic. Youre jumping on BritneySlave. Calm Down and respect his opinion. Sure there are things you might not agree with, but he still has the right to think whatever he wants. If he wants to protect his race, then he can, just like you are doing to yours. Jewish people do commit unfair things too. For instance, when they go into the Gaza Strip with the tanks.. sure im not saying Israel shouldnt defend itself, but im saying when Israelis go into the west bank / gaza, its almost like a cat and mouse chase without the mouse having no legs. Like the cat is always scratching it. I respect Israel and i think that its right for israel to destroy Hammas and ect.

>>> BritneySlave - I think that it is kinda wrong to say that Osama Bin Laden didnt do the attacks. He calls for Jihad the most to all muslims, and he is the HEAD of Al Queada or however you spell it. But just because they are Muslim doesnt mean its ok to let them down easy for the things they do. Im not saying all muslims are evil --- its only the muslim extremists and the terrorists... which are a small minority. I have muslim friends so dont think im taking RoM's side. I Respect all the good Muslims such as yourself and other good ones.

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Old 01-17-2004, 02:14 AM   #77
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IM NOT TAKING SIDES
>>> RoM - I think you are being too sarcastic. Youre jumping on BritneySlave. Calm Down and respect his opinion. Sure there are things you might not agree with, but he still has the right to think whatever he wants. If he wants to protect his race, then he can, just like you are doing to yours. Jewish people do commit unfair things too. For instance, when they go into the Gaza Strip with the tanks.. sure im not saying Israel shouldnt defend itself, but im saying when Israelis go into the west bank / gaza, its almost like a cat and mouse chase without the mouse having no legs. Like the cat is always scratching it. I respect Israel and i think that its right for israel to destroy Hammas and ect.

>>> BritneySlave - I think that it is kinda wrong to say that Osama Bin Laden didnt do the attacks. He calls for Jihad the most to all muslims, and he is the HEAD of Al Queada or however you spell it. But just because they are Muslim doesnt mean its ok to let them down easy for the things they do. Im not saying all muslims are evil --- its only the muslim extremists and the terrorists... which are a small minority. I have muslim friends so dont think im taking RoM's side. I Respect all the good Muslims such as yourself and other good ones.

Now Stop Arguing!











.......... Please????

I also have muslims friends, so its not really black and white here, I just dont understand how someone can say something which is totally disconnected from reality and given facts, Muslims are those who condutc most of the world terror in the last few heres, I never said its all of them and i never generalized, not all muslims are bad and i dont even hate muslims, but i expect from someone who is supposed to be rational and logical to admit certain things that are well known to everyone, im aware that also Israelis do wrong stuff, and we even do alot of stuff i disagree with and strongly oppose! but i am willing to admit and go against the acts and people i disagree with, but as BritneySlave said "those arent muslims" well by saying that he rejects the idea muslims have any blame whatsoever, again, i do not say everyone but those minority who does so should get the fair treatment...
I never understood how a large population in the middle east supports group such Hammas, Hizbollah and Islamic Jihad, here (in Israel) we oppose organization and people who do things which are uncalled for, we protest against them and even kick them out of the leadrship if needed so, there is never a supportive consensus that gives all the support to one organization or another just because it belongs to this or that religion...and thats what makes me mad in Britneyslave replies, i feel like he supports them and give them the solidarity they do not deserve just because they belong to his religion
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^ that is true, there are people in the middle east who do like hammas and all those idiot groups who think that islam should be the remaining religion in the whole wrong which is unfair.. but then, BritneySlave should have the right to think what he wants
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>>> RoM - I think you are being too sarcastic. Youre jumping on BritneySlave. Calm Down and respect his opinion. Sure there are things you might not agree with, but he still has the right to think whatever he wants. If he wants to protect his race, then he can, just like you are doing to yours. Jewish people do commit unfair things too. For instance, when they go into the Gaza Strip with the tanks.. sure im not saying Israel shouldnt defend itself, but im saying when Israelis go into the west bank / gaza, its almost like a cat and mouse chase without the mouse having no legs. Like the cat is always scratching it. I respect Israel and i think that its right for israel to destroy Hammas and ect.

>>> BritneySlave - I think that it is kinda wrong to say that Osama Bin Laden didnt do the attacks. He calls for Jihad the most to all muslims, and he is the HEAD of Al Queada or however you spell it. But just because they are Muslim doesnt mean its ok to let them down easy for the things they do. Im not saying all muslims are evil --- its only the muslim extremists and the terrorists... which are a small minority. I have muslim friends so dont think im taking RoM's side. I Respect all the good Muslims such as yourself and other good ones.

Now Stop Arguing!











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lol, i'm always willing to, but he always reads my posts with a closed/arrogant mind. I dont make fun of his nationality. Thank you very much GoofBally boy. Actually, i never really payed much attention to 9/11 cuz of all the bad things that were going about regarding Muslims. I never knew that relation with the Al-Qaida and Osama. So i guess you're right. Even though i dont care about that, i try not to focus on those kinds of things. and thank you very much for understand my point of view. Lastly, Jihad does NOT mean "Holy War". The Media always says false things about our religion. NEVER believe what you hear about our religion on tv n stuff like that because the majority of the time, it's fake. I'm not saying everytime it's fake, but the HIGH majority of the time it is. Jihad literally means "To Struggle". Struggling to get an A for a math test, is a form of jihad. The stupid media just made their own definition of Jihad, and i dont know how they got the conclusion that it meant "holy war". Thanks again.
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Old 01-17-2004, 03:45 PM   #80
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I also have muslims friends, so its not really black and white here, I just dont understand how someone can say something which is totally disconnected from reality and given facts, Muslims are those who condutc most of the world terror in the last few heres, I never said its all of them and i never generalized, not all muslims are bad and i dont even hate muslims, but i expect from someone who is supposed to be rational and logical to admit certain things that are well known to everyone, im aware that also Israelis do wrong stuff, and we even do alot of stuff i disagree with and strongly oppose! but i am willing to admit and go against the acts and people i disagree with, but as BritneySlave said "those arent muslims" well by saying that he rejects the idea muslims have any blame whatsoever, again, i do not say everyone but those minority who does so should get the fair treatment...
I never understood how a large population in the middle east supports group such Hammas, Hizbollah and Islamic Jihad, here (in Israel) we oppose organization and people who do things which are uncalled for, we protest against them and even kick them out of the leadrship if needed so, there is never a supportive consensus that gives all the support to one organization or another just because it belongs to this or that religion...and thats what makes me mad in Britneyslave replies, i feel like he supports them and give them the solidarity they do not deserve just because they belong to his religion
I never said those people weren't Muslim, i said they weren't following our religion correctly, period. Secondly, Jihad does not mean holy war, read my post above. Thirdly, I DONT support them, i dont even know where you got them from, you were reading my replies with the wrong perspective i presume.

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