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Old 01-09-2004, 02:59 PM   #51
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hmm...i guess u could say that, but that shouldn't reflect on EVERY muslim.
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Old 01-10-2004, 01:11 PM   #52
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i have something to hide? from you? why would i hide anything from you? wtf?
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Old 01-10-2004, 01:15 PM   #53
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I dont know, its just that if you have nothing to hide there is no reason for you to get mad and be irrational, someone who acts legally isnt afraid of the policeman
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Old 01-10-2004, 01:53 PM   #54
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Yup it is just getting closer and closer they are taking all the religion out of the world and making way for the antichrist and the one world government.

But what can we do about it...it is bound to happen.

I wonder though how they are going to get the US to just let the United Nations take over I guess we will see though.



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"Secularism is the separation of church and state, but it is also the respect of differences."

That is a bunch of bullcrap how is that the respect of differences when everyone is forced to be the same?
*applauds*America and the rest of the world want to get rid of religion. The 10 commandments thing in the Alabama courthouse was removed because it was 'Unconstitutional' And they guy wanting to ban the word god from the pledge of alligience. He doesnt even have custady of his own daughter. If ur athiest why is it everyone elses problem? 88% of the world believes in the meaning of God. A higher being. Just because the other 21% dont believe in a god, doesnt mean they taking it away from the public. If ur athiest dont look at the ten commandments, dont say GOD in the pledge of alligene. WTF is up w/ removing God in the US currency. No one even pays attention to that. MY GOD My focus isnt only on Christianity,If a muslim man wants to wear a turban its fine with me, if a jewish man wants to wear a yamickah its fine too.Religion is one of the things that lets everyone express themselfs. Whats the point privatly expressing religion? You know what to express. Just because someone else doesnt know about ur religion doesnt mean you have to remove it. If it bothers you then just dont look there. It shouldnt be someone else's problem. Besides there are more god beliving people in the world,why dont athiests think what they want inside themselfs? lord what is this world coming to?

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Old 01-11-2004, 04:13 AM   #55
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Expressing yourself is good, exaggerating while doing so might offend others, the line between being religious and being a fondementalist is very fine, sometimes individuals cross that line without paying attention, someone who is a fanatic is blinded by what religion preachers tell him, the problem is not the religion, the problem is whats around it and what people make out of it...
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Old 01-11-2004, 05:24 AM   #56
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You know, while it is wrong that the French girls are banned from wearing their headscarves, it is EQUALLY wrong that the Malaysian women are forced to wear a certain type of dress to conform to Islam!

Both are equally wrong.

They violate the same human right---that right of free expression and that right to control your own body as long as it doesn't physically hurt others.
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^Read the replies i wrote in the other thread, if you have a question about it, post it in the other thread.

RoM, so i'm afraid from the policeman? riiiight, even though that has NOTHING to do with this! So, how is wearing a hijab exaggerating? Tell me that. How will following the dress code of Islam offend other people? Islam teaches peace, and the only time Islam rightfully went to war was when The Prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him) went to war with his enemies because he was afraid of the extinction (?) of Islam, which is perfectly logical reason to fight. In no way does Islam tell you that it's ok to bomb towers etc... So, if that's what your getting at RoM by saying that they "blindly" follow what their religion preaches, you are sadly mistaken. As i said, get the facts straight, and then try to put up an argument. In no way do followers of Islam try to pursuade the other people to commit acts of terrorism, if they do, than they are not following Islam in the right conduct. People have thier own minds and control their own actions, if they wish not to correctly follow in what they believe in, it shouldn't affect the other Muslims out there who are faithful to their religion.

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^^ exactly. Everyone should have the right to say or do anything they want. If doing that (taking it away) wouldnt that be a violation of freedom rights? R u gonna tell me that just because im not an atheist i have the possibility of being thrown into jail because i put a cross on? SCREW It.the world is turning into shi*. I dont understand that just because there are a few athiest means that we (majority of "GOD") followers have to loose our rights because of the few, which incidently is only 22% of the world population.
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britneyslave read what i said again before jumping like a moron to things that have nothing to do with what i say....I said that some preachers can use the power of religion and ppl go blindly after preachers, those preachers can decide to brainwash them in the name of this religion or another! and ppl go after taht cuz they think thats what the religion stands for,
Islam calls to fight holy wars if the religion is at risk, well thats something individual, maybe some ppl think that if Judaism or christianity exist, it puts islam at risk and decide to open war....i dont know if its true! but i am SURE that more than few islamic preachers are using their power in order to brainwash, its even sadder that in some cases it happens in nations, such as Iran, Palestinien authority and formerly Iraq
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britneyslave read what i said again before jumping like a moron to things that have nothing to do with what i say....I said that some preachers can use the power of religion and ppl go blindly after preachers, those preachers can decide to brainwash them in the name of this religion or another! and ppl go after taht cuz they think thats what the religion stands for,
Islam calls to fight holy wars if the religion is at risk, well thats something individual, maybe some ppl think that if Judaism or christianity exist, it puts islam at risk and decide to open war....i dont know if its true! but i am SURE that more than few islamic preachers are using their power in order to brainwash, its even sadder that in some cases it happens in nations, such as Iran, Palestinien authority and formerly Iraq
so now who's the one resorting to calling other people names? and no you did not say that! your changing what your previous post said. Why dont YOU go read your ther posts since you can't even keep track of what you said urself. Islam does NOT call to fight holy wars if the religion is at risk. I said that the Prophet Mohammad (p.b.u.h) fought because Islam was at the verge of extinction. which is FAR greater than a 'risk' because other religions exist. And no, i'm sure hardly anyone thinks that just because there are other religions out there, it puts there religion totally at riks. Seriously, you sound like a 12 year old arguing. See, you dont even have your facts straight. And dont even try to argue with me on that one cuz who's the Muslims here? That's what i thought. How do you know that Islamic preachers 'brainwash' their followers..so r u saying that the Islamic preachers are the ones who convince their beleivers to commit terrorist attacks?
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