Cindy Sheehan - Page 6 - Eternal Allegiance

GrgotSlave · 08-22-2005, 03:17 PM

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Originally posted by Lemons
Also, lets not give the politicians and the President so much cold blood. No one is that cold to destroy a country for oil. Also, the Senators from all 50s states, know just as much as the president does.. Why is it that They didn't base their Yay vote for Oil, but the President did? Even the liberal senators from States like California, Illinois, New York, Pennsylvania - why did they vote yes on the War in Iraq? Why didn't they stop Bush from his "Opperation Blood For Oil".. Because they, like the President, had reason to believe that when Saddam had or has the weapons, he'd use it on us, or our troops in Saudi Arabia. Saying Saddam never had weapons is like saying Osama, doesn't have the terrorists... theres no difference. come on, lets think it through.

Actually, there is someone that cold enough, and his name is George W. Bush. How would you know exactly what kind of people they are? You're saying exactly what they want you to. Dude, you're talking like you know everything that goes behind the scenes. I know I don't know it all but I'm not fooled by the corrupt president and government. Trust me, George Bush doesn't give a shit about anybody and their lives. If he wants the oil and money, he's gonna get it anyway he wants.

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Originally posted by strongerbritters
I blame IRAQ on Bush's quest for oil. You cannot say for fact that nobody would destroy a country for oil, because Bush just did. I don't think CIA intelligence had anything to do with the invasion of Iraq. It was a sidetracker because Bush couldn't find Bin Laden, and what a GREAT sidetracker than removing Saddam, who nobody was really that fond of, and using him as an excuse because people WOULD believe Saddam is the reason we invaded and these MADE-UP weapons of mass destruction (there was no proof BEFORE going into Iraq that he had them), which for some reason WE are only allowed to own. Therefore there is no doubt in my mind that Iraq was a distraction because they couldn't get Bin Laden and they made up a distraction and used a country that would benefit them in the end, which is because of oil, which in turn FUCKED US, the public that doesn't matter to the Bush Administration over, with outrageous gas prices.

Couldn't have said it more perfectly.

I'm not a psychologist or anything but I think George just doesn't want to believe that we're being ruled under a corrupt government and president. It's as if he's saying these things to make himself feel better unconsciously. Saying things like, "No cold person would kill a country for oil." Well, like Daniel said, Bush is doing exactly that. I mean, George, do you actually, with all your heart, think that Bush is in Iraq to help the citizens over there? I hear stories about women in Iraq being raped by the American military. If you don't believe me, I can give you a link, which you'll probably refuse to believe.

Errick · 08-22-2005, 07:42 PM

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Originally posted by strongerbritters
I dunno, do they have oil in that country? If so, they're next

Daniel and Adeel, the smart-aleck comments weren't necessary. The reason I asked my Syria question was because it's been said that the weapons of mass destruction were moved from place to place and while they might not be in Iraq this year, they could so easily be put on a plane and sent there again. The cat and mouse game.

Was there nothing you could pick apart but my last statement?

GrgotSlave · 08-22-2005, 08:03 PM

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Originally posted by Errick
Daniel and Adeel, the smart-aleck comments weren't necessary.

Um....I didn't say anything about your comment. If you're talking about the statement I made about Korea....I was being serious and I didn't intend for it to have any reference to your previous statement.

Birgerhar · 08-22-2005, 08:07 PM

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Originally posted by Lemons
What about the 97 Senators who voted Yay for going into Iraq? What about the CIA and how they messed up? Theres more to running a country than the President and the Administration.

Yeah. But you seem to try and put the blame somewhere else. although Bush wasnt the only part, he was a major part of going to war. If Bush was never for the war in the first place, would we have gone? No.

ManSlippers · 08-22-2005, 08:56 PM

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Originally posted by Errick
Daniel and Adeel, the smart-aleck comments weren't necessary. The reason I asked my Syria question was because it's been said that the weapons of mass destruction were moved from place to place and while they might not be in Iraq this year, they could so easily be put on a plane and sent there again. The cat and mouse game.

Was there nothing you could pick apart but my last statement?

I though it was necessary, relevant, and obviously comical. Not to mention when I quoted, I thought you were Stinger for some reason, but anyhow yes, I felt my comment was necessary.

Lemons · 08-22-2005, 09:03 PM

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Originally posted by Harbinger
Yeah. But you seem to try and put the blame somewhere else. although Bush wasnt the only part, he was a major part of going to war. If Bush was never for the war in the first place, would we have gone? No.

Hmm.. it seems that the research I have found about the senators was wrong. I re-did some searching and found out that more Senators voted no against the war. I appologize for the wrong info.

Akaka (D-HI)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Byrd (D-WV)
Chafee (R-RI)
Conrad (D-ND)
Corzine (D-NJ)
Dayton (D-MN)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Graham (R-SC)
Inouye (D-HI)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Reid (D-NV)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Wellstone (D-Out Of Office)
Wyden (D-OR)

Aside from those people, you should blame everyone else in the Senate. Im not pushing attention away, It just seems as though most of you have forgotten how a war is started or passed, or any sort of major opperation. Its not only the President and his Administration, its the Congress and Senate as well. Im just pointing it out.. not shifting attention away.

Kattie · 08-23-2005, 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by Lemons
I agree 100%.

Hell freezes over.

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Originally posted by Errick
Aren't the weapons of mass destruction in Syria anyhow?

I don't know. I've seen that repeated on several different sites now ,but there is no evidence I can find really either way.

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Originally posted by strongerbritters
I blame IRAQ on Bush's quest for oil. You cannot say for fact that nobody would destroy a country for oil, because Bush just did.

Well if you want to be technical, the Iraq war is now in its third administration. After Poppy Bush pulled the ground troops out of Iraq, the air war continued up until 2003.

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Originally posted by strongerbritters
, which is because of oil, which in turn FUCKED US, the public that doesn't matter to the Bush Administration over, with outrageous gas prices.

In all fairness, there is only so much Bush can do about gas prices. Earlier this year, gas prices rose because the tropical systems in the Gulf shut down oil production. And then you have market forces like OPEC to deal with.

Anyhow gas prices have been a headache for Presidents going back to Carter. Clinton, to much criticism, released oil in the Strategic Reserve in order to lower prices during his Presidency.

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Originally posted by Harbinger
Yeah. But you seem to try and put the blame somewhere else. although Bush wasnt the only part, he was a major part of going to war. If Bush was never for the war in the first place, would we have gone? No.

Bush played a major role in the war ,but if Congress disagrees his plans are DOA.

Any long-term military deployments must have Congressional approval and plus Congress can defund any proposal that they don't like.

PapRoach123 · 08-24-2005, 12:05 AM

Gas prices are huge everywhere. It's never been as high as it is now over where I live. USA's gas prices are still significantly lower than ours, so you guys aren't completely screwed yet, at least.

Birgerhar · 08-24-2005, 01:18 PM

My bro went to Germany and said Gas Prices were over $6 a gallon! yeeeech.

PapRoach123 · 08-24-2005, 01:30 PM

Yeah. Everything that has to do with cars is a lot more expensive here. You need to have a well paid job here to even be able to afford one at all. Especially right now in these current times, where prices in general are very very high due to inflation, while people's incomes are forced to remain the same by our beloved government. *puke puke* Result, shit gets more expensive each month.