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Old 07-08-2003, 07:52 PM   #1
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"The white house is acknowledging that president bush was incorrect when he said in his state of the union address that iraq recently had sought significant quantities of uranium in africa."
Does anyone else have a problem with the fact that our president gave us false information? I find it very wrong that we fought this war on information that we're now finding out is false(or already knew). And the fact that we have not found weapons of mass destruction after 3 months of being in iraq. I dont see how people can just sit around and say "we'll its already happened..move on" when a lot of people were killed and troops are still over there fighting for what..?? If im the only one that see's this as wrong, then im just really disapointed in the human race.
Good article on this: http://abcnews.go.com/sections/night...ry_030616.html
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Old 07-08-2003, 08:04 PM   #2
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LMFAO. You guys are so naive. All presidents have always lied, weather you like it or not. And yeah you couldn't expect less from Bush, he sucks
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Old 07-08-2003, 08:46 PM   #3
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^Im far from naive, i agree all presidents have lied, its their job, but i dont understand why people are not upset about it. There have been wars where there was no justification for war, but people spoke up about it and put a end to it. I dont understand why this is backpage news when we still have troops over there fighting for a war that was falsly justified.
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Old 07-08-2003, 09:53 PM   #4
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The war achieved other ends, I guess that's why people aren't so hot and bothered. Either that or they were readily prepared that it could all be bullshit and weren't that shocked when it turned out to be. I fall into the category. What do you expect from a politician except lies? ANY politician.
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Old 07-08-2003, 10:19 PM   #5
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lay off the guy he's got more stress than you'll ever have, unless you become prez. which i don't think will happen. cuz' yeah every prez has lied, and he's no different, and everyone is always ganging up on him for the littlest of reasons, personally i don't like the guy, but i also don't like you and your type for not supporting him....he makes decisions EVERY DAY, that could be bad, or good, and the affect an ENTIRE nation, and frankly if you were in his place i feel you'd collapse, cuz if you can't handle his lying, how the hell would you ever handle lying yourself, and DON'T tell me you've never ever lied to someone cuz that right there would be a lie, it's human nature to lie, and everyone does i trust him with my freedomsand so should you because he's our dictator, and yes that's what our AMERICAN PRESIDENT IS, a dictator, so we have the judicial, legislative, and executive branches, big deal, ooh and those chechs & balances are sooo good whatever, we just don't want the rest of the world to think we're power-hungry-greedy little people who have nothing better to blow people....and so far the blowing up that we've done has been essential and needed, and well not desirable, but impactful....and for you to diss the man who has stepped up to preserve our great nation, HOW DARE YOU... and my god
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fighting for a war that was falsly justified.
this war was completely justified, saddam hussein has forever been a man of violence, and we act on hard evidence which was initiated by suspicion, and we go in to get rid of a regime that both hinders world realtions but is cruel to it's very citizens. yes, there are some people who believe the war was bad, but those are the iraqi militants who support saddam hussein's every move, did you ever watch the news while it was happening katy, did you see the violence, did you see the casualties, yes it's not fun, but regardless of what you our what anyone else thinks, afew thousand heartbreaks is substantial, but not a crime against humatarian law...did you know that war is a natural (though not traditional natural style) way of controlling population....without the wars, the holocaust, and many other such events, the world would be in much worse shape, for one thing. i'll use the holocaust as my example....okay there were approximatel 13-15 million people killed, think if each woman in that group where to have an average of 4 times half of 15 is 22.5 million children, now imagine the females of that group begin to have an average of 4 children thats 45 million additional people to place and frankly, we haven't got much usable room left in the world.... now there are 6 billion people and not enough space and we're tightly crammed into little condos, and apartment, and duplexes, and such
yes these losses are irreplaceable, and i feel strongly concerned for the surviving families and i'm shocked that it happend but with the other wars included there's probably another oh i'd say 20-40 million deathe to so add that to 45 and the high number is 95 million people...woah, is that alot of people or what?, alot more homes to build, alot more mouth to feed....
so i don't agree with war, and i don't hafta either, i just think that god puts us all into turmiol so he can control the populaton as best he can....and yes, it's sad that we can't all get along, but nothing is that easy anymore.....
saddam is an evil man with a notorious background, and what makes you think this war was falsly justified, there was no falseness about it, we had strong leads, that he had nukes, or bio weapons, and he's would be one of the few to actually use them..........................
whereas unlike the u.s...we honestly use them as a threat, we'd never actually use or nukes or our bio weapons, but saddam has, and what would make anyone believe that he wouldn't again.
i take weird sides to things, i agree with war, but not really like it, i support george w. bush, but i don't really like him,
"you give a little, you take a little", that's how the world runs, and you just have to follow it's current, because if you don't it'll suck you down the grand old exit, and never let you return....
while we're on the subject...you are very naive, but you bring up a substantial point, he lie to the world and he's going to pay for it, but in subtle ways, like falling out of his campaign sponsors, and whatnot...no one should ever lie, but it's nature
and the only deaths the americans are ever concerned about is ur own when the british people and german people cared so much when our men died, but we just said...blah...when one of theirs was laid to rest...and omigod we've lost 212 people or something like that....ouch that's not good, well at least we're not irap where they've lost over 3,600...we give them no credit, no closure, because they're on the other side....sheesh....

as a nation we need to take a real good look in the mirror, yes i don't like or agree with many things about this nation, but as a citizen it is my (and it sure as heck is yours) obligation to follow these codes, and repect them for what they are, and alos respect need to be shown to those who make those very decidions....
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well i hope my insight is helpful, and read up the topics before you post your opinions, it always helps to know the actual events that started the war.
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Old 07-09-2003, 06:21 AM   #6
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^I know the actual events thanks, and just because saddam was a evil man does not mean we should go take over his country. Do you understand how many other dictators are JUST like him in the world? To many to count. The whole point of goign to this war is because saddam suposably broke the un agreement which we have failed to prove 3 months after the war. Im glad the iraqi people are free, but i dont think that was cause enough to go to war. "me and my type" excuse me, but where did you ever come up with the idea that i did not support him? I just disagree with his actions on this war. Just because i dont agree with it does not mean i dont support our country/troops/president. Just for the record i really dislike you and your type of naieve children that listen to everything the news gives you. Also if war is so natural, why dont you let saddam kill off his own people instead of sending our troops over there
Ps. im glad you have so much faith in the us government when it comes to nukes....and i'll bet they'll be proving you wrong within the next 30 years.

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Old 07-09-2003, 06:29 AM   #7
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aaah see people risked their lives... based on false information.. well not FULLY. we did accomplish something here. It's just a sickening fact that now we dont know what IS the truth
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Old 07-09-2003, 07:18 AM   #8
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Bush is a wanker.
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Old 07-09-2003, 09:33 AM   #9
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I don't believe anything they say really, but when we're going to start a war, and your presenting the facts to me in a national address, you better have your shit together.

Bush is not the one to blame, but the people behind him. they don't give a f%ck if Bush looks bad, this is their agenda they are pushing through, not his. All you have to do is read about the PNAC and their views on the middle east and Americas role in the "new world". Bush is just their patsy and when he's gone, they'll still be running the show from behind the scenes, just like they've done since Reagan.
Ps. theres now more "evidence" thats being proven wrong from his state of the union address and powels as well.
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Old 07-09-2003, 09:34 AM   #10
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Bush is a wanker.
That too .

He didn't need to lie to be an ass in my eyes .
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