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Old 07-09-2003, 05:31 PM   #21
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I never said i was against bush, but i am against the war that happened, because no one ever convinced me that there were legit reasons of going into iraq. People always are like bush is not the bad guy..the people behind him are, and i totally agree, but Bush knows what they're about, hes not stupid, and he put them there, so what does that say about him? Im not totally against bush, and i welcomed him into office with a open mind, but i dont think with the economy and the war and tax cuts...i just dont think hes made very good decisions as a president..but thats not what this discussion was about, it was about our presidents and his cabnet's credibility. When it comes to war and justifying war....i expect the president to give the american people solid evidence of why we should spend our money to go to war, and we are now finding out that that information is wrong, and that scares me of the future.
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Old 07-09-2003, 05:54 PM   #22
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well i guess i see you point about it being a very concerning future for the united states. but, i'm beginning to see your point, i just see things way differently, and i can't usually accept that, i'm kinda sorry i jumped on you. not totally sorry becasue it was my opinion and still is, but am kinda sorry. anyways, i didn't mean that comment "you and your type." I just get overly passionate about some issues, and i tend to be a bit feisty. well back on the subject, so you see conspiracy too? i mean that's the first thing i thought when i heard he gave false info, because yeah, he's basically the cabinets walking, talking, trained monkey, that's what presidency is about, and he sure as hell doesn't analyze every little detail himself, he'd go mad, and so would anyone else. anyways, i still say war is a "naturally occuring" event, that's not gonna change, and that we as the people of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA should respect our trained-monkey of a president...that is all
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Old 07-09-2003, 06:46 PM   #23
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Old 07-09-2003, 09:22 PM   #24
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did you know that war is a natural (though not traditional natural style) way of controlling population....without the wars, the holocaust, and many other such events, the world would be in much worse shape, for one thing. i'll use the holocaust as my example....okay there were approximatel 13-15 million people killed, think if each woman in that group where to have an average of 4 times half of 15 is 22.5 million children, now imagine the females of that group begin to have an average of 4 children thats 45 million additional people to place and frankly, we haven't got much usable room left in the world.... now there are 6 billion people and not enough space and we're tightly crammed into little condos, and apartment, and duplexes, and such
just when i thought i had heard the stupidest thing ever uttered on a message board.

im going to print this out and frame it on my wall, so people can point and laugh at how ignorant this is.

where do i even begin?

should i start with your ludacrous butchering of mathematical population models?

you know what, this is almost artwork... it really is... you've managed to present false arguements for almost every subject they teach in a high school... geography, socialism, psychology, mathematics, biology, chemistry, history, english, and physics...

war is a natural way of controlling population?

well then i guess if a band of thieves were to break into your house, rape and kill your entire family, then demolish and loot your home, only leaving to move on to the next house and town, THAT must be a natural way of controlling the population.

im SOOOOOO glad those millions of jews, and russians were gassed, shot, and slaughtered like pigs, because we certainly CAN NOT cram 45 million more human beings on this earth... canada has a 1.5 square kilometer of land PER capita... that means every canadian could take 1.5 square kilometers EACH, and we'd have room for everyone... now i definitely do not want anyone cramming into condos taking up MY 1.5 kilometers...

you know what??? we should go to india and just start slaughtering the locals.. and the on to china!!! we'd be doing them a favour, by controlling the population!!! its natural!

fuck. how can an education system fail someone so grotesquely.
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Old 07-09-2003, 09:27 PM   #25
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Cause people are ignorant.
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just when i thought i had heard the stupidest thing ever uttered on a message board.

im going to print this out and frame it on my wall, so people can point and laugh at how ignorant this is.

where do i even begin?

should i start with your ludacrous butchering of mathematical population models?

you know what, this is almost artwork... it really is... you've managed to present false arguements for almost every subject they teach in a high school... geography, socialism, psychology, mathematics, biology, chemistry, history, english, and physics...

war is a natural way of controlling population?

well then i guess if a band of thieves were to break into your house, rape and kill your entire family, then demolish and loot your home, only leaving to move on to the next house and town, THAT must be a natural way of controlling the population.

im SOOOOOO glad those millions of jews, and russians were gassed, shot, and slaughtered like pigs, because we certainly CAN NOT cram 45 million more human beings on this earth... canada has a 1.5 square kilometer of land PER capita... that means every canadian could take 1.5 square kilometers EACH, and we'd have room for everyone... now i definitely do not want anyone cramming into condos taking up MY 1.5 kilometers...

you know what??? we should go to india and just start slaughtering the locals.. and the on to china!!! we'd be doing them a favour, by controlling the population!!! its natural!

fuck. how can an education system fail someone so grotesquely.
well um hello, i never said any of it was okay.....i just said that it is the way god chooses to control things, and um, yeah no, raping and killing like you say is totally different, TOTALLY......you really need to open up your eyes, smell what is in front of you, and shut up...cuz' i don't like being called stupid for my opinions and you wanna know what....my GODDAMN TEACHER told me that......
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oh and by the friggin' way, some parts of the world are still unlivable (uninhabitable), becasue of weather conditions, canda applies to that, so you need to do some reserach as well
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Old 07-10-2003, 10:24 AM   #29
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Rumsfeld now says that we did not go to war with iraq because of weapons of mass destruction.........haha, Of course it wasn't. We never said that! The U.S. declared war because it saw existing evidence of Iraqi arms programs in "a dramatic new light" following the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.


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Iraq war not about new arms evidence: Rumsfeld
Last Updated Wed, 09 Jul 2003 17:17:08
WASHINGTON - The United States didn't declare war on Iraq because of new evidence of banned weapons, U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld said on Wednesday.


INDEPTH: Weapons of mass destruction


Donald Rumsfeld
Rumsfeld said the U.S. declared war because it saw existing evidence of Iraqi arms programs in "a dramatic new light" following the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

Rumsfeld made the comments in an appearance before the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee.

On Tuesday, the White House acknowledged that U.S. President George Bush's claim that Iraq tried to buy uranium from Africa was based on forged information.

Though Bush justified the invasion to topple former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein largely on his alleged chemical and biological weapons and possible pursuit of nuclear weapons, such arms have not been found in the 10 weeks after the war.


FROM JUNE 3, 2003: Report says no weapons of mass destruction

Congressional committees are evaluating whether the administration may have used faulty or exaggerated intelligence on Iraq's weapons to justify the war.

Rumsfeld also told the committee that talks were under way to increase NATO involvement in Iraq peacekeeping efforts.

Written by CBC News Online staff


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What the hell, rumsfeld is wack!
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Old 07-10-2003, 12:02 PM   #30
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I don't think Bush was even honestly voted president.

In Florida (where I'm from by the way) Jeb Bush is govenor. In case you don't know thats the presidents brother. During the presidental election Al Gore was the original winner of the state of Florida. Then a few hours later Florida goes back to 'undecided'. A re-count was started because someone apparently thought the count was wrong for some reason. A lot of people weren't sure if they had voted for who they wanted too. I didn't vote but my parents did, the names of all the people who are running were placed on the ballot in a way that was very confusing. The little check boxes were placed kind of inbetween 2 names so you weren't sure if you had placed a vote for the right person.

My mom was telling my how "Bush's name was right at the top, it was practically impossible to vote wrong if you were voting for him."

Jeb Bush is the govenor, I'm fairly sure the way the ballots are designed goes through him first and then they use it. I also find it odd that Bush's name was right up top while Gores name was down towards the bottom.

I think that Jeb (or someone behind him) designed the ballots hoping people would get confused and vote for someone other than Gore. Then after Gore still won they had a re-count and then Bush was the winner.

If Al Gore would of won the Florida electorial votes he would of become president. Florida was the only state to hold a recount
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