ManSlippers

Welp, I guess we know who will NOT be winning the election next year.

"The opinion polls suggest that Americans are inclined to give lesbians and gays legal rights as couples but not the right to marry; 42% favouring a legal ban on gay marriages."

What the fuck? Thats a fucking sad ass statement right there. It doesn't effect these people, so why the fuck do they care what others do with their lives? You have no idea how fucking pissed off that statement just made me. Here's the rest of the article:


Bush backs bar on gay marriage

Gary Younge in New York
Thursday December 18, 2003
The Guardian

President George Bush is to support a change in the US constitution to block same-sex marriage, overriding the legal advances towards gay rights made in the courts this year.
He said he would "support a constitutional amendment which would honour marriage between a man and a woman, codify that".

The issue of gay marriage seems likely to become an important issue in the next year's presidential election, because of the the US supreme court's decision in June to repeal the anti-sodomy laws and the Massachussett's supreme court's ruling in favour of gay marriage last month.

The Christian right, fearing that these rulings could eventually make gay marriage legal nationally, responded by calling for a change to the constitution endorsing only heterosexual marriage and effectively denying official recognition to same-sex couples.

To change the constitution they will need a two-thirds majority in both houses of Congress and then the support of three-quarters of the states.

Mr Bush has voiced his opposition to gay marriage before, but until now he has refused to back a change to the constitution, trying to maintain a fine line between indulging the prejudices of his political base in the Christian right and scaring off swing voters.

But in a television interview on Tuesday night he offered qualified support for a constitutional amendment, and criticised the Massachusetts supreme court for overstepping its jurisdiction.

The issue should be left to states to decide, he said. "The position of this administration is that whatever legal arrangements people want to make, they're allowed to make, so long as it's embraced by the state or at the state level.

"Except and unless judicial rulings undermine the sanctity of marriage; in which case we may need a constitutional amendment.

"The [Massachusetts] court, I thought, overreached its bounds as a court," he said. "It did the job of the legislature. It was a very activist court in making the decision it made."

Gay rights groups reacted angrily to the suggestion that the president might lend his name to a amendment which they believe is designed to specifically exclude them.

"It is never necessary to insert prejudice and discrimination into the US constitution, a document that has a proud history of being used to expand an individual's liberty and freedom, not to take them away," said Winnie Stachelberg, political director of the Human Rights Campaign.

The spokeswoman for the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, Roberta Sklar, told the New York Times: "If he endorses amendments such as this, which blatantly discriminates against a class of people, you would then have to wonder who and what is next."

Nonetheless, Christian conservatives believe he has still not gone far enough, since his statements still gave the states leeway to allow gay couples some of the rights enjoyed by heterosexuals.

Tony Perkins, president of the rightwing Family Research Council, said Mr Bush's statement "sounds as though the administration would support civil unions, which are counterfeits of the institution of marriage".

The opinion polls suggest that Americans are inclined to give lesbians and gays legal rights as couples but not the right to marry; 42% favouring a legal ban on gay marriages.

Nanny

I'ma fuckin Banana Peel that bastards ASS. For five-six. I dont get why it matters who other people marry? It just doesn't make sense. WHO CARES IF BARB MARRIES BRENDA? It doesn't affect anybody.

*throws a koopa shell at Bush*

Riapanonias

well i'm glad if he doesnt win the election tough he didnt realy win it last time.. gore just went out wile he was in the lead? or somthing like that

Errick

^^ Good point, there. No really.

I believe what Bush is doing is only right. I don't need to enclose my opinions, but I see it as right, and that's how it'll be for me.

I'm actually really saddened at who is actually in the primaries and what they are for. Bush just put up a law against abortion, and all these new guys are for abortion. It angers me. If the final number of people to pick from are all still for abortion, I don't think I'll be voting in the first year that I'll be allowed. It means that much to me.

And it's not that I'm not open-minded, I just see better when the bright lights aren't on. I believe that things are the way they are for a reason, and changing it is not only going to damage society as a whole, but lesson it's worth and value. And we wonder why other countries hate us.

ForeverInLoveWithJus

This religion tends to come out a bit too often I believe.

ManSlippers

Why?

Why?

Why?

Why?

Wrong.

Fine, then let's put a ban on opposite sex marriages, owning any kind of pet, owning a car, a house. Cause although it's not my business who you're with, what pet you have, what car you have, or what house you live in, I'm still gonna meddle in your business and tell you what to do because I DON'T think you should have it. Jesus didn't have a car or a pet, or a house, so why should you? It's against my religion for you to have any of that, so you're not going to have it because I'm in charge!

That was just a straight up IGNORANT statement.

Cause you're in it? Honestly, who gives a DAMN if they hate us?

Starshine

Thank god I live in Ontario where they see everyone as equal, and anyone has the right to get married.

Thats the saddest fucking thing I've seen in a long time. Its pathetic actually, why the hell cant anyone who is in love, get married. You know he's all for not letting gay people adopt either.

Nanny

You know, this is only setting Bush up for the funniest Text Book chapter in history: "The Gay Revolution".

Riapanonias

lol at swany


and Godspeed . i have to say i agree with u on the statemtn

not on the why ones.

JammieJam

i'm proud that GB continues to go with his convictions, depite of the criticism and abuse he may receive from ppl. That is quite honorable. Now ppl, don't go get all excited and say Hitler followed his convictions, etc.