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Old 08-03-2004, 01:34 PM   #321
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Personally, I think you DO have a choice to be gay or not. If there wasn't a choice GOD would not have put it in the Bible.
Are you a lesbian? Are you bisexual? No? Then don't assume, please. Thanks.

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Basically, God started with a man and a woman. Only a man and a woman. He made a man and a woman to produce children. This is the whole point of what he created. Now, he did not create it where man and man , or woman and woman are making children. They can't can they? Then they're doing something out of GOD'S law.
Okay, so if God made man and woman to reproduce, then why does he allow such things as miscarriages? And why wouldn't He have it so that everytime man and woman have sex, a baby is produced? And if what you're saying is true, then being gay is not a sin at all. Having gay sex, on the other hand, would be. And that would be because you are wasting sperm, etc. Now, if that's the case, masturbating is a sin as well, and therefore gays are at no more of a fault than any human being.
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Old 08-03-2004, 01:36 PM   #322
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Well, being a serial killer is stressful too, but you'd still have that choice.

I think, the stressful part, is not thinking you'll be accepted by other people. Which I think is just wrong. I've very open to people of anything, because it isn't my place to judge.

I know many people who have said they were bi-sexual, went through all the stress, and it ended up being something that was just a, how do I say this, "fling" type thing? The thing is, it wasn't just a month thing or so, it was a 6 year thing. But then, again, that isn't speaking for all you.

I know personally, even after I admitted I was bi-sexual, and went through so much pain with that, after 2 years, I figured out I wasn't.

Again, that isn't for everyone. But, yes, I truly believe it is a choice. Again, my opinion.
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Old 08-03-2004, 01:41 PM   #323
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Okay, so if God made man and woman to reproduce, then why does he allow such things as miscarriages? And why wouldn't He have it so that everytime man and woman have sex, a baby is produced? And if what you're saying is true, then being gay is not a sin at all. Having gay sex, on the other hand, would be. And that would be because you are wasting sperm, etc. Now, if that's the case, masturbating is a sin as well, and therefore gays are at no more of a fault than any human being.
Miscarriages happen because it just wasn't meant to be.Your body simply rejects it.

And, yes, true, in the bible it states being gay is not a sin, but acting it out is too. But it also says thoughts of it are just as bad.

And no, it is NOT because you're wasting sperm. It is just simply, because it wasn't meant to be. It isn't what GOD intended.

And, you know what, I'll have to check about the masturbation and get back to you on that. However, I know in the section, it does not state masuturbation.

Here are some scriptures:

Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
23 Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.
24 Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:
25 And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.


1 Corinthians 6:9--- Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
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Old 08-03-2004, 01:47 PM   #324
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Miscarriages happen because it just wasn't meant to be.Your body simply rejects it.

And, yes, true, in the bible it states being gay is not a sin, but acting it out is too. But it also says thoughts of it are just as bad.

And no, it is NOT because you're wasting sperm. It is just simply, because it wasn't meant to be. It isn't what GOD intended.

And, you know what, I'll have to check about the masturbation and get back to you on that. However, I know in the section, it does not state masuturbation.

Okay, this whole "Thats not what God intended" is just bullshit. If God had a plan for everybodies lives' he wouldn't have given humankind free will.
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Old 08-03-2004, 01:52 PM   #325
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Okay, this whole "Thats not what God intended" is just bullshit. If God had a plan for everybodies lives' he wouldn't have given humankind free will.
He has something in store for you-- it's your free will to choose if you want to head God's way.
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Okay, this whole "Thats not what God intended" is just bullshit. If God had a plan for everybodies lives' he wouldn't have given humankind free will.
...unless that WAS the plan
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Old 08-03-2004, 02:18 PM   #327
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Okay, so God creates people, and gives them freewill so he can pick and choose who he takes into heaven, yet he loves all of us? That is one fucked up God right there.
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Okay, so God creates people, and gives them freewill so he can pick and choose who he takes into heaven, yet he loves all of us? That is one fucked up God right there.
THANK YOU! I agree 100% *claps*
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Old 08-03-2004, 02:23 PM   #330
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Okay, so God creates people, and gives them freewill so he can pick and choose who he takes into heaven, yet he loves all of us? That is one fucked up God right there.
God created man in his own image. God has freewill and, therefore, created man with freewill as well. I mean, God could have simply created robots which always did what was right but then they wouldn't have free will and there would be no way of knowing whether, if given the chance, they would choose for good or for evil. Besides, who are you to judge God?
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