Bush backs bar on gay marriage - Page 2 - Eternal Allegiance

stardust · 12-20-2003, 10:37 AM

" Jesus didn't have a car or a pet, or a house, so why should you?"
Jesus didn't have a wife either.

Errick it does sadden me to read what you wrote. I think that other countries hate us because of opinions like that. I have a very strong feeling that the only reason youre saying this is because this is what they believe at your church. So i guess what im saying is, maybe you should really think about what your putting your faith into. Becuase an institution like that, really isn't worth your time.

Loc · 12-20-2003, 11:33 AM

Ha! Bye Bye Bush :waves:

I still don't understand why he has something against gay people and all. And he wonder why there is so much hate in this country. Im hoping we get a president that has an open-mind for everything and doesnt judge what he doesnt know.

charly · 12-20-2003, 12:56 PM

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Originally posted by GODspeed
Cause you're in it? Honestly, who gives a DAMN if they hate us?

LMAO @ Godspeed

Errick · 12-21-2003, 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by stardust
" Jesus didn't have a car or a pet, or a house, so why should you?"
Jesus didn't have a wife either.

Errick it does sadden me to read what you wrote. I think that other countries hate us because of opinions like that. I have a very strong feeling that the only reason youre saying this is because this is what they believe at your church. So i guess what im saying is, maybe you should really think about what your putting your faith into. Becuase an institution like that, really isn't worth your time.

Jesus never sinned. Reason why He never married, had kids, and the like. He could have easily done all of it, but then He wouldn't be as honorable and glorious as He is.

I at least know whole-heartedly what I believe. Instead of just having a good enough idea about it. I don't know why I'm here, but having discussions like this, as I am sure, is more than likely holding me back from finding out.

How do you know it isn't worth my time? Are you telling me I'm wasting my time in believing in God? That it's just some big deception...sure it is. Earth is a place to weed out all those who don't belong in Heaven, as I see it. And it seems that those who don't believe won't be going to an Eternal place such as the Almighty's house in the firmament.

ManSlippers · 12-21-2003, 12:09 PM

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Originally posted by Errick
Jesus never sinned. Reason why He never married, had kids, and the like. He could have easily done all of it, but then He wouldn't be as honorable and glorious as He is.

I at least know whole-heartedly what I believe. Instead of just having a good enough idea about it. I don't know why I'm here, but having discussions like this, as I am sure, is more than likely holding me back from finding out.

How do you know it isn't worth my time? Are you telling me I'm wasting my time in believing in God? That it's just some big deception...sure it is. Earth is a place to weed out all those who don't belong in Heaven, as I see it. And it seems that those who don't believe won't be going to an Eternal place such as the Almighty's house in the firmament.

Who are you to say who has a right to be married? Who are you to judge others based on their sexuality? Who are you to say that only YOU can make the decisions you want because youre whats "accepted" and "the norm" and they arent so they shouldnt have the right to have equal choice?

Just because it says in the bible marriage is to be between a man and a woman, doesnt mean it HAS to be...it didnt forbid same sex, either. And I hardly believe that ignorant judgemental close-minded people like yourself can make it anywhere close to heaven. Because until you learn to accept others for who they are, and let them make their own decisions and you not look down upon them, look forward your time below in the fiery pits of hell...if it even exists...

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Originally posted by Errick
Earth is a place to weed out all those who don't belong in Heaven, as I see it.

Then you should see it as you'll never get close to heaven. Earth has no place for ignorant people.

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Originally posted by Errick
And it seems that those who don't believe won't be going to an Eternal place such as the Almighty's house in the firmament.

As well as those who judge.

Judge not les ye be judged.

Errick · 12-21-2003, 12:44 PM

Yes, I am so judgmental. This thread is full of my judgments, eh? Find me one, that is specifically calling any one out.

And telling you the answer to all of your questions in your first reply to mine, is only bugging you, now isn't it? I can believe what I want and not have to tell anyone as it is my beliefs, not yours. And I'm not here to influence any one. End.

Errick · 12-21-2003, 12:53 PM

Another thing to add is why did you bring this up if you didn't want people to have an opposing view? It's called a discussion.

If you only wanted one-sided business, you could have just said "All those who don't believe in gay marriage, leave your views out of this." It would have been a more clear subject/case/point then. Honestly.

Last time I checked you're not allowed to flame anyone, so I ask that you don't any more.

Nanny · 12-21-2003, 02:10 PM

Why must religion ruin every discussion it's in?

stardust · 12-21-2003, 03:26 PM

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Originally posted by Errick
Jesus never sinned. Reason why He never married, had kids, and the like. He could have easily done all of it, but then He wouldn't be as honorable and glorious as He is.

I at least know whole-heartedly what I believe. Instead of just having a good enough idea about it. I don't know why I'm here, but having discussions like this, as I am sure, is more than likely holding me back from finding out.

How do you know it isn't worth my time? Are you telling me I'm wasting my time in believing in God? That it's just some big deception...sure it is. Earth is a place to weed out all those who don't belong in Heaven, as I see it. And it seems that those who don't believe won't be going to an Eternal place such as the Almighty's house in the firmament.

your view of religon and God is so skewed that it's scary. but im not going to argue with u about this, it IS a waste of my time. BUT i will say 1 thing. I said "institution" meaning the particular brand of faith u have chosen. not God in general, but rather whomever put those horrible ideas of how life is into ur head. not all brands of christianinty are the same.
OH and I DO know whole heartedly what I believe

ManSlippers · 12-21-2003, 07:17 PM

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Originally posted by Errick
Another thing to add is why did you bring this up if you didn't want people to have an opposing view? It's called a discussion.

If you only wanted one-sided business, you could have just said "All those who don't believe in gay marriage, leave your views out of this." It would have been a more clear subject/case/point then. Honestly.

Last time I checked you're not allowed to flame anyone, so I ask that you don't any more.

I never said I wanted a one-sided discussion. Everything I've said, is DISCUSSING. Just because I feel your view of it is ignorant and judgemental, that's my part of the discussion.

Last time I checked, there was no flaming in this thread. There's a difference between flaming, and describing how you're carrying yourself in conversation. So if I actually EVER flame you here, I'll stop. But since it hasn't happened yet, I'll carry on with my opinion. And for the fact that you're pretty much contradicting yourself in your own statements, I find it hard you can believe in anything anymore. But, that's your choice so it is what it is.

And also, it IS possible to have religion, and not be so close-minded on matters such as this. Since it's not your life that it would be effecting, so why should you care if two people of the same sex got married?