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Old 08-06-2004, 10:14 PM   #1
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DUBLIN, Ireland - Atlantis, the legendary island nation over whose existence controversy has raged for thousands of years, was actually Ireland, according to a new theory by a Swedish scientist.


Atlantis, the Greek philosopher Plato wrote in 360 B.C., was an island in the Atlantic Ocean where an advanced civilization developed 11,500 years ago until it was hit by a cataclysmic natural disaster and sank beneath the waves.

Geographer Ulf Erlingsson, whose book explaining his theory will be published next month, says the measurements, geography and landscape of Atlantis as described by Plato match Ireland almost exactly.

“I am amazed no one has come up with this before, it’s incredible,” he told Reuters. “Just like Atlantis, Ireland is 300 miles long, 200 miles wide, and widest across the middle. They both have a central plain surrounded by mountains. I’ve looked at geographical data from the rest of the world and of the 50 largest islands there is only one that has a plain in the middle — Ireland.”

Sinking of North Sea shoal
Erlingsson believes the idea that Atlantis sank came from the fate of Dogger Bank, an isolated shoal in the North Sea, about 60 miles (100 kilometers) off the northeastern coast of England, which sank after being hit by a huge flood wave around 6,100 B.C.

“I suspect that myth came from Ireland and it derives from Dogger Bank. I think the memory of Dogger Bank was probably preserved in Ireland for around 3,000 years and became mixed up with the story of Atlantis,” he said.

Erlingsson links the boundaries of the Atlantic Empire, as outlined by Plato, with the geographic distribution of megalithic monuments in Europe and Northern Africa, matching Atlantis’ temples with well-known burial sites at Newgrange and Knowth, north of Dublin, which predate the pyramids.

Could Plato have known?
His book, “Atlantis From a Geographer’s Perspective: Mapping the Fairy Land,” calculates the probability Plato would have had access to geographical data about Ireland as 99.98 percent.

Previous theories about Atlantis have suggested it may have been around the Azores Islands, 900 miles (1,440 kilometers) west of the Portuguese coast, or in the Aegean Sea. Others locate it solely in Plato's imagination.
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Old 08-06-2004, 10:20 PM   #2
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I am from Ireland and I dont believe this whatsoever. Thats a whole heap of crap.
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Old 08-06-2004, 10:24 PM   #3
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I am from Ireland and I dont believe this whatsoever. Thats a whole heap of crap.
Why do you think that?
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In the end of the day, its about what you believe. I would like more evidence before I will believe that.
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Old 08-06-2004, 10:36 PM   #5
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In the end of the day, its about what you believe. I would like more evidence before I will believe that.
Well...you really can't get evidence in something like this. Plato isn't really available for us to talk to and pick apart his brain on the subject. And also, no one ever said this was true, it's a THEORY proposed by someone, that's all. But from the connections and similarities that Ulf Erlingsson has made between the island of Ireland and the "atlantis" that Plato talked about...I think the theory could serve a purpose. Although, it would be a little dissapointing I think since we've thought for so long that Atlantis was supposed to be this amazing find and it had such a mysterious aura to it, to find out it's just Ireland, that takes so much away from the myth. Not to bash on Ireland in any way, but it's just pretty much ripping up one of, IMO, the coolest myths out there.
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Old 08-07-2004, 01:32 AM   #6
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They also think that some place in sout america was atlantis..
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Well I wouldnt want it to be Ireland. I am proud of where I am from and I dont care about Atlantis. I just care about where I live and we have our own history and we dont want anything to take away from it.
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If Ireland was originally Atlantis, it doesn't suddenly void Ireland's history. You're not going to suddenly be "Ireland, but originally Atlantis", you know.
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Yeah I know that, it hasnt been on the news here at all and i dont think it will be..
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Basically, Emma, the only thing it's gonna do, if proven right, is show that the countless years scientists and geographers have spent on the search for Atlantis was all a complete waste of time, effort and money.
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