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03-25-2003, 10:04 PM
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#51 | | come away with me
Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Vancouver
Posts: 2,195
| Quote: Originally posted by Vv CHICK 2oo7 well, lemme break it down for ya .. in this country our military is OPTIONAL! something those leaders keep safe for us so we don't have to go to war if we don't want to. | hey.
learn to interpret, so i dont have to waste my time spelling it to you brainwashed little fools.
america BRAINWASHES you into think that its patriotic to join the army because he wants you and your loser children to go to war, so his kids, and his blue blood friend's kids dont have to go to war..
look at the demographics of the soldiers today, are they rich kids with nice backgrounds? no... they're poor kids, below the poverty line....
they want you to think you're a hero when you die for your country...
watch full metal jacket, and tell me if you think THAT'S a hero. |
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03-25-2003, 10:05 PM
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#52 | | World Champion
Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Florida
Posts: 24,147
| Quote: Originally posted by pasta hey.
learn to interpret, so i dont have to waste my time spelling it to you brainwashed little fools.
america BRAINWASHES you into think that its patriotic to join the army because he wants you and your loser children to go to war, so his kids, and his blue blood friend's kids dont have to go to war..
look at the demographics of the soldiers today, are they rich kids with nice backgrounds? no... they're poor kids, below the poverty line....
they want you to think you're a hero when you die for your country...
watch full metal jacket, and tell me if you think THAT'S a hero. | man, you're too caught up in a non-existent conspiracy theory. And I'm actually done here, because nothing you've said has any validity and slim to none in truth percentage. Later. |
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03-25-2003, 10:08 PM
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#53 | | come away with me
Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Vancouver
Posts: 2,195
| Quote: Originally posted by Spearspsychotard As much as respect your opinion all I have to say to that is Go fuck yourself. I
enlisted in the United States Army and I find that remark of yours very disrespectful. If
you don't support the war, fine. Neither do I. I think Bush is a dickhead, too. But your
comment is a bit fucked up in my opinion.
I didn't join the military cause I support the government's policies, I joined cause I love my
country. I joined for the experience. Play with death? Fuck that. A lot of people who
joined the military joined to pay off their damn college tuition.
Consider yourself lucky I can't touch you from here, ‘cause if I could I'd knock your teeth
out. | you're an ignorant fool. and i wont cry a tear for you if you ever die in one of bush's alterior motivated wars.
you signed up to be a killer, and if you die, then you got what was coming to you.
end of story.
at least soldier's back in the day found honour in death... you call yourself a soldier? you're scared of death, and yet you think you're an honourable soldier?
you're nothing but a pussy, hiding behind fat cat technology...
fight a war with a country that has equal military might as you, then ill salute you, soldier..
but until that day, you're just a bully...
nope, i take that back... you're the bully's sidekick who does all the dirty work... |
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03-25-2003, 10:10 PM
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#54 | | World Champion
Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Florida
Posts: 24,147
| Quote: Originally posted by pasta
you're nothing but a pussy, hiding behind fat cat technology... | and you're just a pussy behind a computer that talks more shit than actual truths. |
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03-25-2003, 10:19 PM
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#55 | | come away with me
Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Vancouver
Posts: 2,195
| Quote: Originally posted by RaInBoW_bRiTe Let me ask you something. Do you live in America? Cause that is about the most unfeeling thing I have ever heard. Those people are protecting our country from a man who has the potential to kill us! He has killed thousands of his own people already. If he could he'd be in America slaughtering all of us right now in our beds! BTW, Most people don't sign up to "play with death" as you put it. My dad is in the air force reserves. He signed up not because he needed the money (he has a well paying job as a flight engineer already) but because he felt he owed it to his country. My brother is signing up because the navy will pay for his medical school expenses if he is with them for 4 years. Neither of them have a death wish, as you seem to think all people who enlist do. |
haha, just like hitler wanted to invade america...
how many americans has saddam ever killed? has he ever once invaded america? nope... osama killed two of the most known landmarks in new york, and since you cant find him, your looking for someone else to pick on... good for you...
"let me ask you something, do you live in america?"
no, i dont live in america, therefore i MUST not have any feelings.
good fucking point buddy
*thumbs up* Quote:
Do you know that most of those citizens are happy the war is coming? They live in terror of Sadaam Hussein. He kills anyone who disagrees with him. These people live in absolute poverty. I am so thankful that I live in a country where I can bitch about if I'm getting fat or not. My dad has been to these countries and seen these people and he has told me some horror stories. There are kids on those streets over there whose parents cut off their arms so they can receive more money from begging. Yes, They are already dying over there. But they aren't dying from America's hands. They are dying from their "great" leader who only cares about himself.
BTW, this war is going to be about as bloodless as they came. The army is not going over there bombing villages and killing innocent people.
| hey, im not defending saddam..
AMERICA SHOULD HAVE NEVER PUT THAT DICTATOR INTO POWER...
but hey, i guess its their fault, so now they have to clean up their mess, right?
im arguing against bush's CLAIMED motivations for this war, and how americans are brainwashed into believing his propaganda...
thats where this all started... with michael moore, remember? Quote: |
Now what 'business buildings" would this be? The ones where Sadaam Hussein is hiding? These people have a little bit more to worry about than their streets.
| oh, you know where saddam is? well you should tell someone in the army, so they can stop destroying all of iraq, and focus on your secret location! Quote: |
The magority vote does not always determine the president. actually our vote doesn't really count for much. From what I learned in my US Goverment class the House Of Electors decides who the President will or will not be. So , it doesn't really matter who the 'magority' voted for.(Someone correct me if I am wrong on this High School was a few years ago, and I slept a lot in that class because the teacher was dreadfully dull)
| thanks for the history class.
however, my point still stands: the majority of americans did not vote for bush. Quote: |
Notice I said I also did not agree with our President in my previous post. The point I was getting at in my former post, was that I was not going to speak out against the President anymore and support our troops. Nowhere did I state that noone else couldn't. I was stating what My belief structure was. And it sitll is. In times of war Americans should band together in my opinion.So no that does not include when the President wasn't even elected. We weren't in war yet were we?
| what if the president was making a mistake? and everyone just blindly followed him... you can only know what's right, if all the alternatives have been evaluated, and yours is still the best solution...
well, bush doesn't care aboot the alternatives, he cares aboot bush. Quote: |
I don't think I need to step back and get any perspective on this. I like mine just fine. I don't consider myself brainwashed at all. Supporting people who are laying their lives on the line for me does not make me brainwashed, it makes me a good citizen. Geez, thats just common courtesy to me. Not many people seem to have THAT anymore though.
| can you HONESTLY tell me, you feel threatened by saddam? that saddam, is going to come to YOUR house, and push you around?
if so:
then, yes, you are brainwashed... saddam just wants to kill his own citizens in peace... just like they do in china... but iraq has oil... so "freedom" is the false pretense that he uses... Quote:
BTW..I'm sooo sick of this anti-American attitude. Everytime I turn arround in a thread someone is saying how stuck up Americans are. I have kept my mouth shut about it but I'm so sick of it. I try not to sterotype any country, and speak bad about them, but it seems that noone has the same respect for Americans because we "have everything" blah blah blah. But you betcha is someone said something about THEIR country they would be up in arms about it.
This isn't directed at anyone in paticular btw, its just a rant. | hey, i love america.. its my 2nd favourite country in the whole world... i have issues with american culture...
... as brilliantly outlined in Bowling for Columbine. |
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03-25-2003, 10:23 PM
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#56 | | come away with me
Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Vancouver
Posts: 2,195
| Quote: Originally posted by Travelin' Soldier Oh and I bet it will be a doozy! Tons of misinformation taken from people who don't like America. How accurate. I don't know what country you're from, but I pity them for having you as a resident or even someone who remotely thinks like you. Nothing you say is credible, and is all pretty much YOUR OPINION. Nothing about what you've said contained any truths but someone's bitter resentment towards Americans. And if you're from America, may you die in a car wreck tomorrow. |
right. everything i say is opinion, but what you say comes straight out of encyclopedias.
good point! Quote: |
Nobody's forcing your brainless ass to reply. So stop wasting your own time, simply because everything you've said is pretty much bullshit. Have a nice day.
| he's wasting my time, because i read his tripe, thinking it might contain an intelligent response...
ps. i wasn't aware that my ass was supposed to have a brain... yours does? that explains a lot. Quote: Originally posted by Travelin' Soldier And I'm actually done here, because nothing you've said has any validity and slim to none in truth percentage. Later. | promise? Quote: Originally posted by Travelin' Soldier and you're just a pussy behind a computer that talks more shit than actual truths. | darn. i thought you'd at least keep your word. |
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03-25-2003, 10:52 PM
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#57 | | Scrum-Tiddly-Umptious
Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The STL
Posts: 5,678
| Quote: Originally posted by pasta
[b]haha, just like hitler wanted to invade america...
| I really don't see what that has to do with anything, so please explain. Quote: |
let me ask you something, do you live in america?"
| I wasn't trying to say you didn't have feelings b/c you weren't an American. I was saying that if you were an American and saying shit like that about the people who are out there defending America then you are a peice of shit. But since you don't live in America disregard the whole thing. Quote: |
im arguing against bush's CLAIMED motivations for this war, and how americans are brainwashed into believing his propaganda
| Would you quit saying that American's are brainwashed? Damn! Most of us don't even agree with the war. The whole point I was trying to make was agree or not support the people who are dying for you. I wasn't saying anything about agreeing with the war. I don't believe any of Bush's 'propaganda' America does not 'brainwash' people. Nazi Germany did that. Quote: |
oh, you know where saddam is? well you should tell someone in the army, so they can stop destroying all of iraq, and focus on your secret location!
| Huh. Nowhere did I claim to know where Sadaam is hiding. It is common knowledge that they have bombed buildings that Sadaam was in , and he had to seek medical attention. That was the building I was refering to. Quote: |
thanks for the history class.
| Your welcome. Quote: |
however, my point still stands: the majority of americans did not vote for bush.
| Once again, the electoral process in the US does not depend on the magority of votes of the people. And actually the magority did vote for Bush. They did a recount in Flordia and he did win there, despite Al Gore's claims. Quote: |
what if the president was making a mistake? and everyone just blindly followed him... you can only know what's right, if all the alternatives have been evaluated, and yours is still the best solution...
| Well In America we also have something called Congress. If need be they can stop the President, they have the veto powers.Our goverment is not a dictatorship contrary to what some people believe. Quote: |
can you HONESTLY tell me, you feel threatened by saddam? that saddam, is going to come to YOUR house, and push you around?
| Heh. I don't think hes coming to my house, but I'm certainly not a signifigant enough person for him to waste his time on. He has million of other people to massacure first I'm sure.
All I know is that he was offered chances to disarm. He failed to. He has kicked Weapon Inspectors out repeatenly. I don't want to give him the chance to do whatever it is those weapons are made to do. I don't think anyone else does either. Quote: |
... but iraq has oil... so "freedom" is the false pretense that he uses...
| You serioulsy don't believe this war is over oil do you? Do you know how much this war is going to cost the US? 90 BILLION dollers. Think how much oil that could buy...
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hey, i love america.. its my 2nd favourite country in the whole world... i have issues with american culture...
| Well thats nice. I love America too. I am sure I would love Canada too. Now what exact parts of American culture do you hate? |
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03-25-2003, 11:02 PM
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#58 | | RJ Worth Every Penny
Join Date: May 2001 Location: Sox Nation
Posts: 8,146
| Quote: Originally posted by pasta the columbine killers supported their country too... they bought guns and ammunition, supporting america's economy... just because you support your country, doesn't mean you're doing the right thing... and certainly doesn't make you a hero...
citizens in iraq and afghanistan were being slaughtered, months before this war even started... you dont know this, because your "news" coverage wont show it to you.
OHHHHH, thats RIGHT!!! GOVERNMENT buildings are crucial for a country... right.. im sure if i burned down the white house, america wouldn't give a shit...
...oh wait.. canadians already did burn down the white house... right after we kicked your ass in our little war...
yes, i was you fucking tool, think with your brain, not with your television.
HAHAHAHA...
do you have rocks for brains?????
you just gave me a recursive definition for patriotism, and tried to pawn that off on me, as an arguement???
stop wasting my time
"patriotism means being patriotic"
good fucking point, einstein...
run along now, i think wolf blizter's back on cnn. |
dude, I think you're the one that's brainwashed by Micheal Moore's film and propaganda
Sadam is killing his own people for NOTHING, he's killed POWs on camera, and you think this is a good thing? more than 40 countries are in agreement with this US/UK led coalition |
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03-25-2003, 11:14 PM
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#59 | | fuck the pain away >>
Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: texASS
Posts: 7,490
| *boils pasta* why so angry :/ did ur dad leave you  u can talk to me if youd like |
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03-26-2003, 12:42 AM
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#60 | | World Champion
Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Florida
Posts: 24,147
| Quote: Originally posted by The Truth 34 dude, I think you're the one that's brainwashed by Micheal Moore's film and propaganda
Sadam is killing his own people for NOTHING, he's killed POWs on camera, and you think this is a good thing? more than 40 countries are in agreement with this US/UK led coalition | Exactly.
Not to mention, as Rainbow Brite mentioned, he had the option to disarm. We acted on diplomacy first. That didn't work. And so far, we've discovered two things he SAID he didn't have that he actually had, and is required by the UN not to have.
He brought it on himself. If we didn't do this now, the world has a grim future. He can develop what weapons of mass destruction he has now into something nobody can handle in turn killing innocent people for no reason except for the fact that he can't seem to get enough power...
His ass is owned, he knows it, and if people don't like it, they can just go under a rock and die...put it this way, all of the pussy countries that are afraid to even approach this problem, should be kissing our round, American, Beyonce asses for saving your future from nothing but nukes and massacres.
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