"shame on u Mr. Bush, shame on u!'' - Page 5 - Eternal Allegiance

BSfanBoy · 03-25-2003, 04:23 PM

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Originally posted by Spike416aeBoiDe
I hate it when award shows are in the middle of world wars.

I don't think anyone likes it.

[ SARAH ] · 03-25-2003, 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by pasta
supporting the troops IS supporting the war... this war is ILLEGAL, and these troops are committing murder... i feel no sympathy for these troops whatsoever... they are soldiers who enlisted to play with death... so if they die, and die they will, then that is simple probability...

ok, some of the marines/navy/air force/etc were enlisted BEFORE the war!

and they signed up to play with death?? ..they signed up to support their country, asshole!

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Originally posted by pasta
what isn't simple probability are all the baghdad civilians who are being killed and who are watching their hometown being demolished...

ok i didnt hear about all the iraqi citizens being killed but if u have an exact count, please share.

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Originally posted by pasta
if this is really "operation: iraqi freedom", how come their city streets are being blown to shit? how come bush calls oil a valuable resource to the iraqi, but doesn't consider their business buildings to be "valuable" at all, when blows them off the face of the earth...

ok, they are aiming for GOVERNMENT buildings! they are sitting there saying ok lets bomb these people's houses

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Originally posted by pasta
being patriotic means standing up for what you think is best for your country, even if it goes against your leaders...

um, thats not being patriotic ..but ya i agree with ya on that one

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Originally posted by pasta
let me ask you, what would it mean to be patriotic for an iraqi? you say, that supporting your country's leader even though you disagree with him is being patriotic.. well in that sense, then iraqis should support saddam hussein, and be "patriotic" and unite with their leader in this time of war...

what? you're comparing america to iraq?? ha ha ha ...

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Originally posted by pasta
being patriotic means nothing more than loving your country... and that CAN mean disagreeing with your leader... the majority of americans did not even vote for george bush... were they being unpatriotic for voting against the future president? for disagreeing with him?

Main Entry: pa·tri·ot·ic
Pronunciation: "pA-trE-'ä-tik, chiefly British "pa-
Function: adjective
Date: 1757
1 : inspired by patriotism
2 : befitting or characteristic of a patriot
- pa·tri·ot·i·cal·ly /-ti-k(&-)lE/ adverb

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Originally posted by pasta
i suggest you take a step back, and get some other perspectives on this, because americans are aboot as brainwashed as they come...

^^biggest load of crap i've heard in a while

[ SARAH ] · 03-25-2003, 04:34 PM

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Originally posted by pasta
support the troops... and who are they??? of all the congressmen, elected, only ONE has a child enlisted in the army... how come they wont send their kids to war? how come bush wont send his daughters to war? its okay for other people's daughters to fight and die for their country, what aboot the bush kids? oh, thats right... their blood is better than yours...

well, lemme break it down for ya .. in this country our military is OPTIONAL! something those leaders keep safe for us so we don't have to go to war if we don't want to.

BSfanBoy · 03-25-2003, 04:34 PM

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ok, some of the marines/navy/air force/etc were enlisted BEFORE the war! and they signed up to play with death?? ..they signed up to support their country, asshole!

Oooo, Damn! Sarah got you there hunny.

EliteHorse · 03-25-2003, 05:03 PM

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Originally posted by pasta
supporting the troops IS supporting the war... this war is ILLEGAL, and these troops are committing murder... i feel no sympathy for these troops whatsoever... they are soldiers who enlisted to play with death... so if they die, and die they will, then that is simple probability...

As much as respect your opinion all I have to say to that is Go fuck yourself. I
enlisted in the United States Army and I find that remark of yours very disrespectful. If
you don't support the war, fine. Neither do I. I think Bush is a dickhead, too. But your
comment is a bit fucked up in my opinion.

I didn't join the military cause I support the government's policies, I joined cause I love my
country. I joined for the experience. Play with death? Fuck that. A lot of people who
joined the military joined to pay off their damn college tuition.

Consider yourself lucky I can't touch you from here, ‘cause if I could I'd knock your teeth
out.

BSfanBoy · 03-25-2003, 05:21 PM

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Originally posted by pasta
supporting the troops IS supporting the war...

That's not entirely right. Some troops don't even wanna be there.

FantaOrSprite · 03-25-2003, 08:14 PM

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Originally posted by pasta
supporting the troops IS supporting the war... this war is ILLEGAL, and these troops are committing murder... i feel no sympathy for these troops whatsoever... they are soldiers who enlisted to play with death... so if they die, and die they will, then that is simple probability...

Let me ask you something. Do you live in America? Cause that is about the most unfeeling thing I have ever heard. Those people are protecting our country from a man who has the potential to kill us! He has killed thousands of his own people already. If he could he'd be in America slaughtering all of us right now in our beds! BTW, Most people don't sign up to "play with death" as you put it. My dad is in the air force reserves. He signed up not because he needed the money (he has a well paying job as a flight engineer already) but because he felt he owed it to his country. My brother is signing up because the navy will pay for his medical school expenses if he is with them for 4 years. Neither of them have a death wish, as you seem to think all people who enlist do.

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what isn't simple probability are all the baghdad civilians who are being killed and who are watching their hometown being demolished...

Do you know that most of those citizens are happy the war is coming? They live in terror of Sadaam Hussein. He kills anyone who disagrees with him. These people live in absolute poverty. I am so thankful that I live in a country where I can bitch about if I'm getting fat or not. My dad has been to these countries and seen these people and he has told me some horror stories. There are kids on those streets over there whose parents cut off their arms so they can receive more money from begging. Yes, They are already dying over there. But they aren't dying from America's hands. They are dying from their "great" leader who only cares about himself.
BTW, this war is going to be about as bloodless as they came. The army is not going over there bombing villages and killing innocent people.

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if this is really "operation: iraqi freedom", how come their city streets are being blown to shit? how come bush calls oil a valuable resource to the iraqi, but doesn't consider their business buildings to be "valuable" at all, when blows them off the face of the earth...

Now what 'business buildings" would this be? The ones where Sadaam Hussein is hiding? These people have a little bit more to worry about than their streets.

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let me ask you, what would it mean to be patriotic for an iraqi? you say, that supporting your country's leader even though you disagree with him is being patriotic.. well in that sense, then iraqis should support saddam hussein, and be "patriotic" and unite with their leader in this time of war...

You have a point on this one. The instance President Bush starts killing thousands of US citizens is the instant I start speaking up really quick and lose all patriosim.

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being patriotic means nothing more than loving your country... and that CAN mean disagreeing with your leader... the majority of americans did not even vote for george bush... were they being unpatriotic for voting against the future president? for disagreeing with him?

The magority vote does not always determine the president. actually our vote doesn't really count for much. From what I learned in my US Goverment class the House Of Electors decides who the President will or will not be. So , it doesn't really matter who the 'magority' voted for.(Someone correct me if I am wrong on this High School was a few years ago, and I slept a lot in that class because the teacher was dreadfully dull)
Notice I said I also did not agree with our President in my previous post. The point I was getting at in my former post, was that I was not going to speak out against the President anymore and support our troops. Nowhere did I state that noone else couldn't. I was stating what My belief structure was. And it sitll is. In times of war Americans should band together in my opinion.So no that does not include when the President wasn't even elected. We weren't in war yet were we?

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i suggest you take a step back, and get some other perspectives on this, because americans are aboot as brainwashed as they come...

I don't think I need to step back and get any perspective on this. I like mine just fine. I don't consider myself brainwashed at all. Supporting people who are laying their lives on the line for me does not make me brainwashed, it makes me a good citizen. Geez, thats just common courtesy to me. Not many people seem to have THAT anymore though.

BTW..I'm sooo sick of this anti-American attitude. Everytime I turn arround in a thread someone is saying how stuck up Americans are. I have kept my mouth shut about it but I'm so sick of it. I try not to sterotype any country, and speak bad about them, but it seems that noone has the same respect for Americans because we "have everything" blah blah blah. But you betcha is someone said something about THEIR country they would be up in arms about it.
This isn't directed at anyone in paticular btw, its just a rant.

Basta · 03-25-2003, 09:53 PM

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Originally posted by pasta
americans are aboot as brainwashed as they come...

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And that, folks, is something called a pile of bullshit. Thank you.

hey, dont sell yourself short, not all americans are bullshit

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Originally posted by Spike416aeBoiDe
I hate it when award shows are in the middle of world wars.

well i know they teach you that america is the world in your history classes, but i hate to break this to you, its not....

this is NOT a world war...

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Originally posted by GlamGurl
One thing to remember is that Saddam is doing alot of that killing...a man who will kill the citizens of the country he claims to care so much about deserves to be brought down and stripped of his power.

and bush sending soldiers to war over oil isn't killing?

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ooh, big one coming up, stay tuned for pt2

Basta · 03-25-2003, 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by Vv CHICK 2oo7
ok, some of the marines/navy/air force/etc were enlisted BEFORE the war! and they signed up to play with death?? ..they signed up to support their country, asshole!

the columbine killers supported their country too... they bought guns and ammunition, supporting america's economy... just because you support your country, doesn't mean you're doing the right thing... and certainly doesn't make you a hero...

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ok i didnt hear about all the iraqi citizens being killed but if u have an exact count, please share.

citizens in iraq and afghanistan were being slaughtered, months before this war even started... you dont know this, because your "news" coverage wont show it to you.

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ok, they are aiming for GOVERNMENT buildings! they are sitting there saying ok lets bomb these people's houses

OHHHHH, thats RIGHT!!! GOVERNMENT buildings are crucial for a country... right.. im sure if i burned down the white house, america wouldn't give a shit...

...oh wait.. canadians already did burn down the white house... right after we kicked your ass in our little war...

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what? you're comparing america to iraq?? ha ha ha ...

yes, i was you fucking tool, think with your brain, not with your television.

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Main Entry: pa·tri·ot·ic
Pronunciation: "pA-trE-'ä-tik, chiefly British "pa-
Function: adjective
Date: 1757
1 : inspired by patriotism
2 : befitting or characteristic of a patriot
- pa·tri·ot·i·cal·ly /-ti-k(&-)lE/ adverb

^^biggest load of crap i've heard in a while

HAHAHAHA...

do you have rocks for brains?????

you just gave me a recursive definition for patriotism, and tried to pawn that off on me, as an arguement???

stop wasting my time

"patriotism means being patriotic"

good fucking point, einstein...

run along now, i think wolf blizter's back on cnn.

ManSlippers · 03-25-2003, 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by pasta

ooh, big one coming up, stay tuned for pt2

Oh and I bet it will be a doozy! Tons of misinformation taken from people who don't like America. How accurate. I don't know what country you're from, but I pity them for having you as a resident or even someone who remotely thinks like you. Nothing you say is credible, and is all pretty much YOUR OPINION. Nothing about what you've said contained any truths but someone's bitter resentment towards Americans. And if you're from America, may you die in a car wreck tomorrow.

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Originally posted by pasta

stop wasting my time

Nobody's forcing your brainless ass to reply. So stop wasting your own time, simply because everything you've said is pretty much bullshit. Have a nice day.