dids

"The two teams with the most points after the 3 group games will go through into the next round."

So from that I get that no matter what 2 of the 3 teams go through. But then you say:

"If two teams are level then it comes to goal difference or goals scored."

Does that now mean that only one group goes through, or that say, one team goes on and the other two are tied, they start counting the goal difference, to see which of the two goes on along with the other one?

I'm confused.

PastyHusty

Here are the top 20:

1 France. 802
2 Brazil. 784
2 Argentina. 784
4 Colombia. 728
5 Portugal. 726
6 Italy. 717
7 Mexico. 716
8 Spain. 713
9 Netherlands. 703
10 Yugoslavia. 702
11 Germany. 695
12 England. 694
13 United States. 690
14 Romania. 675
15 Ireland Republic. 674
15 Czech Republic. 674
17 Cameroon. 672
18 Paraguay. 671
19 Sweden. 665
20 Denmark. 657

Yugoslavia and Holland aren't at the tournament, and they beat Portugal, who are 5th, so it could be possible for them to get into the top 10. I'm not sure how they work out the points though, so we'll wait and see.

PastyHusty

OK. Here is an example: (first number is amount of points, second is goal difference)

1. England. 9, +5.
2. Argentina. 6, +2.
3. Sweden. 3, -1.
4. Nigeria. 0, -6.

England and Argentina would go through as they are first and second, Sweden and Nigeria would go out.

But, if this were the case:

1. England. 9, +5.
2. Argentina. 4, +1.
3. Sweden. 4, 0.
4. Nigeria. 0, -6.

Then it would be Argentina going through as their goal difference is greater.

If both Argentina and Sweden had the same goal difference then the team that had scored the most goals would go through.

If these were the results:

Argentina 3-1 Nigeria
England 2-0 Sweden
Sweden 2-0 Nigeria
Argentina 0-2 England
Sweden 1-1 Argentina
Nigeria 0-3 England

....then Argentina will have scored 4 goals and Sweden only 3, and as they ahve the same goal difference (0) then Argentina will go through because they have scored more goals.

BTW - These results and tables do not reflect what will happen, or what has happened, but they do reflect what should have happened and what should happen.

André_ea

thanks 4 the list...i cant believe that france is still so many points in front
but that will change if they dont qualify 4 the second round

dids

LOL! Thank you. So basically two teams go through. Thanks for explaining that.

PastyHusty

Your welcome I can see Portugal or Italy being 4th after the World Cup, and if France do get knocked out then they could be overtaken by either Brasil or Argentina, but who will it be!?

PastyHusty

Your welcome.

One more thing to add, if the goal difference and goals scored are exactly the same then I think it goes to the result between the 2 teams that are level.

surfbabe

i'm from Portugal! Today's game was horrible! I still can't believe we lost against the USA team we have a great team but our best players are hurt like Figo (one of my favourites). Maybe we aren't prepared for the world cup, who knows! But, above all things, we'll stand for our country and maybe things will get better for the next match (I really hope so)!!

BritBoyUK

i just gotta say that i wasnt suprised by the USA at all! i went to see a game in august between kansas City Wizards v Colorado Rapids and i was well impressed with the standard! i knew they were gonna be weel organised, fit and well up for it! Portugal were very poor for a team of their class but dont underestimate the usa. McBride is a superb player and they have a few really good young and very quick lads too! it was a great game, 2 good goals by the usa and they deserved the win! i predicted they would come 2nd in this group months ago, only problem is...they will face Brazil in the last 16! well don tho usa! the ppl of america shud be well priud! but like Alan Hanson said...they will just get a lil paragraph in tomorras papers, shame really.

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I haven't really been following the World Cup action, especially because of the fact that it's in Korea and the TV times for the games are all messed up here in the U.S.

But that's awesome that the U.S. team won the first game. Hopefully, they'll go all the way!