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11-08-2002, 06:38 AM
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#281 | | What up Gangsta?
Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Austria
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| fine....if you lose that bet....hmmm...lets say you owe me a favour then |
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11-08-2002, 06:45 AM
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#282 | | J Lo Fan!
Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ireland
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| Yeah ok.. |
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11-08-2002, 01:58 PM
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#283 | | Gone
Join Date: Dec 2002
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| Quote: Originally posted by Andrew I think crashs comaprable to those in history of F1 will never happen again....many things hhave changed and such severe injuries are not possible anymore | Quote: Originally posted by irishbritney I agree with that too, its so much safer now | You are right. Crashes shouldn't happen. BUT ........ the extreme safety conditions that we have in F1 today is the exact reason why it has become boring. No one is allowed to touch the other car. Racing is a contact sport! If you take the contact out of racing then it just becomes a high speed chase around a circuit. Toruing Cars, Motorbike Racing and almost all other forms of racing have the exact idea. They allow contact, and lots of it and the racing is very very exciting. F1 should return to these ways. With the new safety conditions now less injuries will occur. |
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11-09-2002, 03:02 AM
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#284 | | J Lo Fan!
Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ireland
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| And thats a great thing.. |
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11-09-2002, 07:52 AM
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#285 | | What up Gangsta?
Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Austria
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| Racing is not a contact sport. Its not funny when drivers are allowed to have contact with each other at a speed of 300. Thats comparable to a serious attack....I am fine with the way it is |
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11-11-2002, 07:11 AM
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#286 | | J Lo Fan!
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| Jordan's main sponsor Deutsche Post has decided not to renew its contract with the Formula One team.
The German company's deal with Jordan expired at the end of last season.
The news is a huge blow as Jordan have already admitted that they are finding it hard to raise the funds to compete next year.
We are in negotiations with new sponsors
Eddie Jordan
Their second driver berth has effectively turned into a race for sponsorship for those hoping to land it.
They are Japanese Takuma Sato, who may be dropped despite being under contract, and Britons F1 veteran Eddie Irvine and rookie Anthony Davidson.
Deutsche Post, who had been Jordan's main sponsor for three years, said the end of the current contract had seemed "a good time to stop" the association.
"We have totally achieved our goals in terms of communication," Deutsche Post spokesman Gert Schukies said in a statement.
"Participating in motor racing has enabled us to make our brand known internationally."
He added: "Jordan Ltd were fair and communicative partners throughout our three years of collaboration."
Jordan team boss Eddie Jordan said he had known for a while that the contract would not be renewed.
He said in a statement that he was already in negotiations with potential new sponsors.
"Although this past season was not among our most competitive, the fact that we finished in the top six for a ninth consecutive season shows that even in difficult times we have acquitted ourselves well," added Jordan. |
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11-13-2002, 06:37 AM
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#287 | | J Lo Fan!
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| The troubled Arrows Formula One team has applied to be put into administration while it finalises a rescue deal.
Cash-strapped Arrows are currently in the middle of negotiations with German investors.
The team has also been in court to face a winding up request brought against them by a number of creditors who are owed money, including former driver Heinz-Harald Frentzen.
Wednesday's court hearing in London was adjourned following the news of the application and the two matters are to be heard at the same time in December by a court in Birmingham.
"This request (for administration) was designed to protect the team while it finishes the deal," a legal source told the Reuters newsagency.
Arrows said on Tuesday that German-based investors had agreed to inject cash into the struggling F1 team, which missed six Grands Prix last season.
The legal sources said it could take several weeks to appoint an administrator.
If the company is taken over by the investors, which could happen in the next few days, the request for administration will become redundant.
The Oxfordshire-based team have until Friday to submit their application to the International Automobile Federation (FIA) to take part in next year's F1 world championship. |
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11-14-2002, 04:22 AM
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#288 | | J Lo Fan!
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| Formula 1 team Arrows may yet survive amid reports that the team have been bought by Arab investors. A company called German Grand Prix Racing have taken a majority stake in the Oxfordshire-based team, according to reports in Italy. The buyers are said to be a front for a group of unidentified Arab investors who will keep Tom Walkinshaw on as team boss.
The possible deal comes just days before Friday's deadline for Arrows to pay the £200,000 fee to enter next year's championship. The company are said to have bought out Arrows' chief shareholder, the investment bank Morgan Grenfell.
"They have bought more than 51% of Arrows, but I cannot say how much in total." Oliver Behring, owner of Asset Trust partners, the holding company of German Grand Prix Racing, is quoted as saying.
In any case, the acquisition comprises and now goes beyond the shareholding of the merchant bank Morgan Grenfell, which is now out of the picture. But even if the fee is lodged with FIA, the sport's world governing body, by the deadline there is no guarantee that they will be given an entry into the championship.
FIA will announce the successful teams on December but the fact that Arrows' cash problems saw them miss six of the last seven races last season could see them refused a place on the grid. |
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11-15-2002, 10:51 AM
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#289 | | What up Gangsta?
Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Austria
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| Arab investors...hehe...I hope they will make it. They will never win a race but it would still be sad to lose em |
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11-18-2002, 02:06 AM
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#290 | | J Lo Fan!
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| Formula One impresario Bernie Ecclestone has accused Ferrari of "taking the mickey" out of the sport with their team tactics this year.
And motorsport boss Max Mosley added that Ferrari "insulted" the public by intervening unnecessarily in the battle between drivers Michael Schumacher and Rubens Barrichello.
Ecclestone said Ferrari had treated the sport as if it was their own private playground.
Ecclestone said the main problem was Ferrari's decision to invoke team orders so early in the season, in Austria after just six of the 17 races.
"When you do it so early, people thought 'this is really taking us for mugs,'" he said.
"The English, the Germans and Italians were ranting. They were super upset.
"People don't like being made fools of. The same thing happened in Indianapolis, really. What Ferrari were saying, really, was, 'We can do what we like'.
"People started to think F1 was boring because the same team was winning. Not only that, they (Ferrari) were taking the mickey," Ecclestone told F1 magazine.
Ferrari imposed team orders on several occasions in 2002 to help Schumacher to the championship, even though they were dominating the season.
Most notorious was the Austrian Grand Prix, when Barrichello was ordered to hand the win to the German on the run to the finish line.
The Ferrari drivers were booed on the podium at that race and the team were fined $1m for the incident.
Mosley - the president of the sport's governing body, the FIA - said: "It was insulting to the public and their reaction was the same as mine.
"It was completely unnecessary because it was obvious Michael would be world champion. We received more than 4,000 e-mails and faxes about Austria."
The drivers were prevented from racing for at least part of the race on several other occasions as well - at the European, Hungarian, Italian and US Grands Prix.
Schumacher outraged fans again at the US race when he inadvertently handed the win to Barrichello while trying to orchestrate a formation finish.
Mosley and Ecclestone have instigated new rules that will ban team orders from next season.
But Mosley has admitted that despite the rule change, it will be difficult to prove that team orders have been used if a team sets out to disguise them.
"Plainly we can only stop them if we can catch them, but at least no-one will now do an Austria," he told BBC Sport Online last month.
"If we see something suspicious, we will invite the stewards to draw an inference. The team will then have to defend itself. "
Ferrari have always refused to apologise for their use of team orders and say they can do what they like to ensure they win the title. |
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