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Old 03-12-2006, 12:28 AM   #31
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Go Lizzy! Do we have to give you a 50-points start or something?

Congrats Neil on the good start! Hopefully we'll get to see a good race tomorrow.
LOL nooooo then it's not fun for you guys anymore



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*pets Lizzy*

Less than ten hours until the race starts!
*pets u bok*


Here are my predictions!

Top 8
1. J. Button
2. F. Alonso
3. M. Schumacher
4. F. Massa
5. G. Fisichella
6. R. Barrichello
7. M. Webber
8. K. Raikkonnen


3 to retire:
- D. Coulthard
- S. Speed
- C. Albers

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F. Alonso.
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Old 03-12-2006, 05:05 AM   #32
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A fantastic start to the new season!

One thing we can immediately see from the Bahrain GP is that Renault, Ferrari, McLaren and Honda are all close on pace. Alonso, M.Schumacher, Raikkonen and Button are clearly the better (and more fortunate) drivers from those 4 teams; and they are all likely to contest the drivers title this season.

Alonso and M.Schumacher were close all race long. Schumacher clearly had the early pace, but he could only open up a 6-7 second gap before the first round of pit-stops, in which Alonso stayed out 5 laps longer. Alonso was faster after both had pitted and quickly closed the gap to less than second. The race win was decided with Alonso's pit-stop, which was 1.4 seconds faster than M.Schumacher's, and enabled Alonso to just pip him into the first corner. For the rest of the race M.Schumacher hardly got a look in as Alonso's coolness and confidence kept him a second or two in front - a great start to the defense of his title.

Raikkonen finished 20 seconds behind the top 2, but in all fairness he had a car that was just as fast (and maybe faster.. ). Raikkonen was 20 seconds back after the first lap, so in effect lost no time to either Alonso or M.Schumacher! He was also held-up by slower cars early on. How much faster could Raikkonen have been throughout the race with a lighter fuel load at more points!? We're sure to find out soon enough. Button.. well, he had minor problems: slow start, traffic after every pit-stop, being held-up by Montoya several times .. but the pace was certainly there.

Is there a dark horse? Yes! Nico Rosberg. So, he finished in 7th, over a minute down on the leaders, but he had an extra pit-stop - erase that gap to 40 seconds. Rosberg also lost time on the first lap with a spin and in losing his front wing - 10 seconds? So, finishing half a minute behind Alonso would place Rosberg 5th - 7 seconds in front of Montoya. Rosberg has also shown us today that he is more than capable of overtaking other drivers, which he did several times at least. If the Williams car continues performing well, or improves, then Rosberg could find himself on the podium . and who knows!? Who got the fastest lap?

What about the rest? Massa spun early on (almost taking out Alonso in the process..) and had a horrible experience in the pits while changing his tyres a lap or two after that spin, which cost Massa about a minute overall. His pace later on wasn't too fantastic either. Fisichella simply bad bad luck, again.. Barrichello was poor and Montoya was solid, but not fantastic. I don't see the 'second' drivers from these teams challenging for the title. Webber? He may have beaten Rosberg, but if it wasn't for Rosberg's problems, that wouldn't have been the case.

Toyoya - poor poor poor.. lapping 2-3 seconds slower than the leaders.

Red Bull - solid, but Coulthard was being overtaken waaay too easily.

BMW Sauber - solid, with some disappointment over Villeneuve's blown engine.

Toro Rosso - solid and showed some speed (no pun ).

Midland - No better than Jordan..

Super Aguri - they'll get a little better.


Malaysia in a week!


Bahrain GP Results
Finishers
1. F.Alonso. 57 Laps
2. M.Schumacher. +1.2s
3. K.Raikkonen. +19.3s
4. J.Button. +19.9s
5. J.P.Montoya. +37.0s
6. M.Webber. +41.9s
7. N.Rosberg. +63.0s
8. C.Klien. +66.7s
9. D.Coulthard. +69.9s
10. F.Massa. +75.5s
11. V.Liuzzi. +85.9s
12. N.Heidfeld. +1 Lap
13. S.Speed. +1 Lap
14. R.Schumacher. +1 Lap
15. R.Barrichello. +1 Lap
16. J.Trulli. +1 Lap
17. T.Monteiro. +2 Laps
18. T.Sato. +4 Laps

Retired
- Y.Ide. +22 Laps
- J.Villeneuve. +28 Laps
- G.Fisichella. +36 Laps
- C.Albers. +59 Laps

Fastest Lap
N.Rosberg - 1:32.406


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Points Gained -

Neil - 20
Gert-Jan - 14
Lizzy - 9

Total Points After Bahrain
1. Neil. 23.
2. Gert-Jan. 14.
3. Lizzy. 9.

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Old 03-12-2006, 06:08 AM   #33
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LOL nooooo then it's not fun for you guys anymore
Don't worry, we'll catch up with you.

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The race win was decided with Alonso's pit-stop, which was 1.4 seconds faster than M.Schumacher's, and enabled Alonso to just pip him into the first corner.
THE moment when the race got decided and it was so excited! Good race indeed!

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Button.. well, he had minor problems: slow start, traffic after every pit-stop, being held-up by Montoya several times .. but the pace was certainly there.
Plus, Button had to battle with Barrichello in the beginning.

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Barrichello was poor
I heard he heard technical problems, something with his gear. Otherwise you can't explain his poor performance. He didn't spun, drove a solid race, but finishes far behind Button ...

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Prediction League

Points Gained -

Neil - 20
Gert-Jan - 14
Lizzy - 9

Total Points After Bahrain
1. Neil. 23.
2. Gert-Jan. 14.
3. Lizzy. 9.
I don't want to rude or anything, but according to my countings, you only gain 18 points.
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Old 03-12-2006, 06:15 AM   #34
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THE moment when the race got decided and it was so excited! Good race indeed!
Hopefully the rest of the season will keep up to the same standard as the Bahrain GP!


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I heard he heard technical problems, something with his gear. Otherwise you can't explain his poor performance. He didn't spun, drove a solid race, but finishes far behind Button ...
Ahh, I forgot about those problems.. but still, it was a long way behind Button regardless.


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I don't want to rude or anything, but according to my countings, you only gain 18 points.
Alonso 1st = +6
M.Schumacher 2nd = +6 (12)
Button 4th = +3 (15)
Massa 10th = -2 (13)
Barrichello 15th = -2 (11)
Raikkonen 6th = +1 & +3(BP) (15)
Rosberg 7th = +3 & +1(BP) (19)
Ide DNF = +1 (20)



You and Lizzy had the bonus points as well.
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Old 03-12-2006, 06:24 AM   #35
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Alonso 1st = +6
M.Schumacher 2nd = +6 (12)
Button 4th = +3 (15)
Massa 10th = -2 (13)
Barrichello 15th = -2 (11)
Raikkonen 6th = +1 & +3(BP) (15)
Rosberg 7th = +3 & +1(BP) (19)
Ide DNF = +1 (20)
Rosberg moved up 5 places, but one place was gained because of the fact Fisichella had to drop out of the race, so he actually gained 4 places. You can forget those BP mister!

Raikkonen went from 22nd to 3rd position --> 19 places. Four were in front of him, but had to give up the race as well, so HE actually gained 15 places, 2 BP.
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Rosberg moved up 5 places, but one place was gained because of the fact Fisichella had to drop out of the race, so he actually gained 4 places. You can forget those BP mister!

Raikkonen went from 22nd to 3rd position --> 19 places. Four were in front of him, but had to give up the race as well, so HE actually gained 15 places, 2 BP.
1 car .. not 8, as the rules say.

You could argue, regardless, that Rosberg made up many more places as he was 20th after 3 corners.. Albers was out before the race started, so that would be 16 places if it was just one car that needed to retire.

Theres a reason why this rule makes heads spin!
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Theres a reason why this rule makes heads spin!
Yes, apparently. You lost me, I surrender, you win!
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Yes, apparently. You lost me, I surrender, you win!
I think I'm just getting my head round it at the start of this season.. There were quite a few races last season when I needed to check and double check the rule to make sure I was doing it right.

The way you interpreted it would make the rule so hard to use.. I'd have to analyse exactly where Rosberg was when the other drivers retired, and work out whether he got an advantage or not. I would need a videotape of the race. The rule works out how far a driver moved from his grid position to final position, only taking into account a large amount of retirements in front.
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Yay I love bonuspoints!

Aaanyway. When's the qualifying? I have to work both saturday and sunday so I dont know when to predict
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Friday's Practice Sessions:
1. A.Davidson. 1:35.041
2. A.Wurz. 1:35.388
3. F.Alonso. 1:35.806
4. F.Massa. 1:35.924
5. K.Raikkonen. 1:36.132
6. G.Fisichella. 1:36.182
7. M.Schumacher. 1:36.617
8. J.Button. 1:36.661
9. J.Villeneuve. 1:37.045
10. R.Barrichello. 1:37.270

If we take Davidson and Wurz out of the equation its clear to see that the Renault's are the quickest in todays practice sessions. Massa and Raikkonen were also quick, but their teammates were a little bit behind - especially Montoya who was 14th. Honda also seem to be quick, but Button and Barrichello will need a bit more in qualifying tommorow if they are to make an impression on the front two rows.

Williams were disappointingly 20th and 21st.


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Aaanyway. When's the qualifying? I have to work both saturday and sunday so I dont know when to predict
It will be at 7AM tommorow morning for you, Lizzy. So you really need to predict before going to bed tonight!
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