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Old 10-21-2003, 12:46 AM   #26
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Originally posted by CrAZyBeAuTiFuL4
Okay, so say it wasn't a hate crime. The pastor is then just exploiting someones death which may or may not have been caused by anti gay opinions...why the fuck bring up the fact that he's gay if they aren't sure it was a hate crime. It was a crime for sure, murder is a crime.
True, but not everyone has a twisted mind like mine. Since everything was "OMG HATE CRIME HATE CRIME" it's drilled into everyone. People rarely think about the what ifs, and look at evidence and witnesses and what actually was going on. It was a crime if their main purpose was to kill the guy, but, as they said themselves, it wasn't, and I can believe that.

I don't believe what the pastor is planning to do, if it's even true (I haven't really seen ANY news stories on this), but it's not up to me to limit someone's free speech or decide whether it should be allowed to happen. It's on his own conscience.

Maybe someone should go right after him and make a big arrow monument pointing to the so-called "hate" monument, with a big plaque saying "Pastor Dickhead, entered hell the day he made this monument". I mean think about it, isn't it against his religion to judge someone else, or assume his fate?

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I find it hard to believe that it wasn't a hate crime though. So if he was hitting on these guys, they didn't need to get physical with him, they didn't need to start kicking his ass.
Why was he hitting on people he really didn't know anyway? That's not cool. It was risky of him to do that. Plus, getting in someone's personal space is just a no-no. Its not uncommon people gettin their ass beat for invading personal space, or doing something that puts someone in an odd place. I mean when I was 16 or 17, I wasn't used to that type of shit, and if someone made advances at me, I got weirded out, and not being exposed to it much at all, I didn't like someone bein all up in my space, so I'd kick some ass. Not like a brutal assbeating, just a "don't fuck with me" type, you know. But now, I know how to handle that type of thing without the physical violence.

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There had to be another motive other than "I don't want you hitting on me." that made them do what they did.
Maybe so, but again they said their intentions were NOT to kill him. His death was an accident. But how many people actually stop to look at the discussion way back when. Everyone just assumes hate crime hate crime cause he's gay, because that's what was printed everywhere. 98% of it is fabrication.

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also, since Matthew can't speak for himself, we'll never know what truly happend.
Unfortunately, true.
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