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Old 06-20-2006, 12:47 PM   #36
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Originally Posted by RaInBoW_bRiTe
Yeah but you can't make the point that women aren't FORCED to cover up if they ARE being forced to cover up. And I meant to say WHITE CHRISTIAN FEMALE, sorry.

Regardless I feel bad for the women that must do that Read "Not without my daughter", its based on a true story where the woman was tricked into visiting Saudia Arabia and was basically kidnapped by her husband who was from there and forced to dress like them and forced to adapt to their culture, and noone could help her because if she left her daughter would have to stay over there and she would never have let that happen. She was beaten and raped and everyone just looked the other way and said the man had the right to do that. It was disgusting.
Actually, I saw the movie for "Not Without My Daughter" and had alot of problems with the way they portrayed Islam and the culture. It's was a fictional story, they overexagerrated everything so much that they wanted you to hate the culture, that's what I got from it. I mean seriously, if I was some outsider watching that movie, I would have so many misinterpretations of that type of culture. Don't judge another culture or religion based on some book, because if you really want to know what the religion teaches, go to the sources: The Qur'an, The Sunnah (sayings and actions of The Prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him), and Islamic scholars. Ofcourse I think what they did in that movie was horrible, it was despicable and only a cruel, horrible person would do something like that.

Jess, do yourself a favor and talk to these Muslim women who wear these types of clothing. Ask them why they wear it and how happy they are to wear it. Have you ever heard of Yvonne Ridley? The undercover "journalist" who went to Saudi Arabia wearing their clothing to investigate what was going on there. The Taliban captured her and she was set to be stoned to death but they released her once she promised them she would learn about Islam. Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying ANYTHING about the Taliban, so don't go there. I'm saying this because Yvonne Ridley thought the Qur'an had procedures on how to beat your wife, how men are superior etc... She went and actually read the Qur'an being shocked and suprised. She liked what she read so much that she actually ended up becoming a Muslim herself. If you care, here's an interview with her where she explains everything clearly. The interview itself is an hour long but just watch the first twenty minutes and you should be satisfied:

http://turntoislam.com/index.php?opt...11&Item id=27

When people actually get to know these Muslim women who wear these clothing out of their own will, it amazes them at how happy these women are to wear the Hijab. These women are so attached to Islam that they're even willing to go out into the scorching heat wearing the clothing that they do. Surely, no one would be so firm in their belief if the religion wasn't just.

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Originally Posted by Ashleigh
I'm just glad that America doesn't force us to where certain clothing. I am seriously grateful for that.
You know, everyone sits there saying all this crap about Saudi Arabia because they make thier women cover themselves. What about the other things? When it's time to pray (and remember, Muslims pray 5 times a day), the store keepers don't even lock or close their doors, they leave their doors wide open because Saudi Arabia is such a peaceful country, that even when it's citizens are given the chance to sin, they stay away from it. How many people here in the West would jump at that opportunity and take everything they could? In Saudi Arabia, the citizens get that chance five times a day but they stay away from doing such a thing because they know the right from the wrong and they choose to enjoin the good and forbid the evil. If such a country is that peaceful, look at the US. Because really, getting the chance to show off your muscles, boobs and ass is the biggest joy, justice and freedom anyone could every have.

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Originally Posted by Stinger
The thing is that we are taught about multi-cultural societies and in it giving every type of individual their own rights and their own priviledges. However, not every country is a multi-cultural society. A lot of people make the mistake in thinking that such makes us the more advanced or the better developed society, and that it's okay for us to bring our ways with us wherever we go. But the truth is we're just different, not better. The moment we arrive there, they will teach us their ways and we best accept or turn around and leave.
Actually Stinger, Saudi Arabia is one of THE MOST multi-cultural societies you will ever encounter. When Muslim go to Saudi Arabia to perform the pilgrimage, you'll see every type of nationality, color, race etc... That's exactly the reason Malcolm X entered into Islam. When he went to perform the pilgrimage, everyone was treated equally no matter where they are from. Here's a letter he wrote about the diversity and multi-culturalism in Saudi Arabia:

http://turntoislam.com/index.php?opt...08&Item id=55
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