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Originally Posted by ElectricStorm I don't believe ALL women who dress up like that, do that because it's their own choice. Women where being told what to do for a very long time in history. The western world became much more open with women and let them have a job, rights to vote ect ect. I can't imagen that all the muslimcountries are so open with women. There is still that 'men are more important thing'. If you are born and raised like that, then maybe you see it as your choice, but you don't have an open view to it. I know lots of girls who are originally from that region. Some cover themselves, some don't. A girl who doesn't once said to me that her parents forced her to cover herself and all, but she decided to speak up and said no. She wanted to be who she wanted to be. Before that, she would cover herself, then when she was at school, she took it away. In the end, she just stepped up and made things clear.
But I do believe some women really want it. But this is not only with the muslimcommunity. People who go to church also have some rules who are not lived by ALL people who go there. Like only wearing skirts and not wearing any make-up, having lots of childeren, no tv or radio and so on. It's just a small part and maybe that's also with the muslimcommunity. But this is more about rules in religion than women who dress up to naked  |
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Originally Posted by RaInBoW_bRiTe I don't believe that all Muslim women cover themselves by their own choice...one of my dad's friends used to live in Sadia Arabia and his wife had to keep her head covered even though she was a WHITE AMERICAN who was Christian not Muslim just so that she wouldn't be attacked by people when she went off base ....which is stupid. I have heard that if you visit over there you have to wear long skirts and shirts so that noone attempts to harass you. At that point it isn't really a choice, you're being forced into a way of dressing you don't neciessarily agree with to avoid persecution. |
Oh ofcourse there are going to be situations where people are forced to cover themselves and stuff. But, even though you guys might not be saying it I just want to make clear that even though it's there families and governments acting this way, it's doesn't really represent true Islamic teachings. In Islam, if you're not doing it for the right reasons (to please God), then there's no point in doing it at all. Similarly, if a girl is wearing Hijab because her parents are forcing her too and she doesn't really want to do it, then there's no blessing in that and ultimately the parents conduct is wrong.
Also, Jess, there are TONS of white americans who are Muslims so that point is pretty insignificant.
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Originally Posted by ForeverInLoveWithJus Sometimes from my own experience, I have seen how controlling some men in the Western World can be. I guess its their choice if they wish to cover up. But I guess in the warm weather, I feel sorry for them that they have so much clothing on and the heat must get to them. |
Thank you because I hope this makes people realize that it's not only Muslims in the world acting like this. No matter who does it, Muslim or not, forcing someone to do something against their own will is wrong.
Regarding the heat and stuff like that, my sister covers her head and wears the full robe to cover her body (which was completley her choice by the way, I didn't even know she wanted to wear the robe untill the day she wore it to school with me
), and I asked her the same question. She made two points: 1. It's not really that much hotter because the fabric is extremely thin and 2. She's doing it to please God so facing a little heat to gain the pleasure of Allah is something she has no problem doing.
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Originally Posted by ForeverInLoveWithJus Thats true, a girl I used to go to school with left Ireland (with her family) and went to Saudi Arabia and she went and dressed in the native clothing, Its only right as they say "when in rome.. do as the romans do" |
In the end of it all, I completley have to agree with this. When you go into a country, specifically Saudi Arabia, from certian stories and stuff, you're expecting that you have to act a certain way. If you're not willing to live by that conduct, then don't visit. There's no harm on either side.