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Old 06-01-2006, 11:05 AM   #5
Errick
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There is a website that comes from a searching point of view. Though, the man who wrote it is a Bible scholar, he looks at both sides of things. Here is the link to the rest of the article. But this is the part that interested me the most. And gives opposition to what is written in your first post. That's what you wanted, correct?
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The Test of Muhammad as The Prophet Like unto Moses

Using the six criteria of Moses being a special prophet, let?s test the Muslims claim that Muhammad is the prophet like Moses.

1). Muhammad was not a Jew. Muhammad is automatically eliminated from being the prophet like Moses because he was not a descendant from one of the 12 tribes of Israel. However, Islam claims that the brethren of Deuteronomy 18 are not the children of Israel. Islam claims that the brethren are not Jews, but they are the Arab descendants of Abraham through Ishmael. They claim the brethren means related to the Jews. This relationship to the Jews is the brethren of Deuteronomy 18:18 and not someone from the 12 tribes of Israel. Islam claims this brethren then of Deuteronomy 18:18 would be the descendants of Abraham through his son Ishmael.

The Bible is clear that the brethren are the 12 tribes of Israel. However, lets examine the Muslim claim that the brethren are the descendants from Ishmael, and therefore Muhammad is the Prophet like Moses.

When studying the Bible, there is little said about the descendants of Ishmael. God promises to bless Ishmael with 12 sons, and he will become a great nation. The Bible then lists the 12 sons of Ishmael. After listing these 12 sons, there is no more continuation of Ishmael?s genealogy. It simply ends with the 12 sons. The genealogy of Ishmael has very little significance in the Bible. Jacob?s genealogy is the one which the Bible goes into great detail. The Scriptures about Ishmael?s genealogy follow:

Genesis 17:20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation.

Genesis 25:12 Now these are the generations of Ishmael, Abraham's son, whom Hagar the Egyptian, Sarah's handmaid, bare unto Abraham: (13) And these are the names of the sons of Ishmael, by their names, according to their generations: the firstborn of Ishmael, Nebajoth; and Kedar, and Adbeel, and Mibsam, (14) And Mishma, and Dumah, and Massa, (15) Hadar, and Tema, Jetur, Naphish, and Kedemah:

1 Chronicles 1:29 These are their generations: The firstborn of Ishmael, Nebaioth; then Kedar, and Adbeel, and Mibsam, (30) Mishma, and Dumah, Massa, Hadad, and Tema, (31) Jetur, Naphish, and Kedemah. These are the sons of Ishmael.


The Koran contains no genealogy at all. Islam had no prophets prior to Muhammad like the Bible?s who maintained the Prophet like unto Moses? genealogy. Islam can make absolutely no connection between Muhammad and Ishmael. There is a 2600 year genealogical gap between Ishmael and Muhammad, with no connection.

The Bible even shows that at the time of Jeremiah, 600 BC, there was a great mixture of people in Arabia. This was 1200 years before Muhammad. It is very possible that Muhammad could be a descendant of the ?mingled people? as they are described in the Bible and not Ishamael. The verse to show this follows:

Jeremiah 25:24 And all the kings of Arabia, and all the kings of the mingled people that dwell in the desert,

The context of Deuteronomy 18 are the children of Israel. But even if one was to think it could possibly be the descendants of Ishmael, the Koran offers no proof whatsoever this could be Muhammad. The Koran is void of genealogy and therefore no link can be established between the two. Islam has no prophets that kept the genealogy to show this link. Islam cannot produce the genealogical records prior to Muhammad that were kept by recognized prophets of God so there can be no doubt to the authenticity. There are no such records and there are no such prophets. Prior to Muhammad, Islam has to rely on the Bible for prophets. The Bible?s prophets are silent about Ishmael?s genealogy while they kept the genealogy leading up to the Lord Jesus.

The Koran offers no proof that Muhammad can be the brethren while the Bible establishes a direct genealogical link from Abraham to the Lord Jesus. The Bible offers all the proof and the Koran has nothing. This requirement alone totally eliminates Muhammad as the Prophet like unto Moses.

2). God spoke directly with Moses. Muhammad fails because the Koran shows he received his message from an angel.

Sura 77.5 Then I swear by the angels who bring down the revelation

Sura 2.97 Say: Whoever is the enemy of Jibreel-- for surely he revealed it to your heart by Allah's command, verifying that which is before it and guidance and good news for the believers

3). The Koran never reported that Muhammad was literally in the direct presence of God.

4). Muhammad never brought in a blood covenant with God, but his message went directly against the revealed word of God. Muhammad denied the basis for the New Testament covenant which is the death of the Lord Jesus on the cross.

Sura 4.157 And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa (Jesus) son of Marium, the apostle of Allah; and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so

5). The Koran reports no miracles of Muhammad. The Koran even says that Muhammad was not like Moses.

Sura 28.48 But (now) when the truth has come to them from Us, they say: Why is he not given the like of what was given to Musa? What! did they not disbelieve in what Musa was given before? They say: Two magicians backing up each other; and they say: Surely we are unbelievers in all. (49) Say: Then bring some (other) book from Allah which is a better guide than both of them, (that) I may follow it, if you are truthful.

6). Muhammad made no prophecies in the Koran. The Muslims call Sura 30 the Great Prophecy: This Sura is often used as proof Muhammad is a prophet.

Sura 30.2 The Romans are vanquished, (3) In a near land, and they, after being vanquished, shall overcome, (4) Within a few years. Allah's is the command before and after; and on that day the believers shall rejoice,

Sura 30 is not a valid prophecy: The Romans, who were the Byzantines, were always at war. A near land is not identified. The location to judge the near land is not identified in the Koran. Is it Jerusalem, Mecca, or Medina etc? What is a few years? No date is given for this prophecy so within a few years can be identified. The fulfillment is not recorded in the Koran. It is impossible to verify that Sura 30:2-4 is a valid prophecy.

Muhammad fails the test of prophet in general and specifically he is not the prophet like unto Moses. Therefore his message as written in the Koran is to be totally rejected. He cannot be classified as a prophet because he made no prophecy which could be tested. The Muslim?s claim that Muhammad is the seal of the prophets has no authority as there is no proof in the Koran that Muhammad was a true prophet of God.
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I come in a discussive standpoint. I found the part about Ishmael being extremely important.
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